Comments on: The Dummies Guide to Negotiating Price with Gogo Girls by Suk Psycho http://www.2thebigmango.com/reader-submissions/2008/09/13/the-dummies-guide-to-negotiating-price-with-gogo-girls-by-suk-psycho/ Insiders take on Thailand Fri, 09 Jan 2009 09:25:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Bubba http://www.2thebigmango.com/reader-submissions/2008/09/13/the-dummies-guide-to-negotiating-price-with-gogo-girls-by-suk-psycho/#comment-171793 Bubba Thu, 13 Nov 2008 00:57:45 +0000 http://www.2thebigmango.com/?p=2143#comment-171793 Should be no shock that since things are so bad right now the girls are noticing that the number of visitors are down and those that do come in, for the most part, are not barfining. I have it on authority from a few reliable sources that the starting quote for shorties is 1500 (set your target for 1000) and an all night tour at 2500. Point being they are competing with each other and see that most farang don't have the money to toss around they had a few months ago. Should be no shock that since things are so bad right now the girls are noticing that the number of visitors are down and those that do come in, for the most part, are not barfining.

I have it on authority from a few reliable sources that the starting quote for shorties is 1500 (set your target for 1000) and an all night tour at 2500. Point being they are competing with each other and see that most farang don’t have the money to toss around they had a few months ago.
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]]> By: Fish http://www.2thebigmango.com/reader-submissions/2008/09/13/the-dummies-guide-to-negotiating-price-with-gogo-girls-by-suk-psycho/#comment-156538 Fish Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:30:12 +0000 http://www.2thebigmango.com/?p=2143#comment-156538 I agree with the folks that think you get what you pay for ,if you build up a fun time with the girls you reap the rewards,example ; last night i pop in to rainbow 4 and there is a girl i saw back in Feb when i was here lovely girl ,fun ,sexy,a looker of the best quailty, spent a great couple of days with her in Bangkok and after a trip from Pattaya saw her one more time. She was working in a bar in sol 33 in Feb, but is now in Rainbow 4. So she clocks me last night and was happy as a pig in shit, when i greated her by her name,she was so made up and remembered that i treated her well and we enjoyed the time together, so she decides picks a friend to go with us, i barfine the friend 600 and give her 2000 for short/medium time , and she said she barfined herself after talking to mamasan,if she did or not who cares. she stayed till the morning for another round after a night with both of them,and all she wanted was a cab fare home asking for 100 baht.,me being a true gent gave her 150.. !! I agree with the folks that think you get what you pay for ,if you build up a fun time with the girls you reap the rewards,example ; last night i pop in to rainbow 4 and there is a girl i saw back in Feb when i was here lovely girl ,fun ,sexy,a looker of the best quailty, spent a great couple of days with her in Bangkok and after a trip from Pattaya saw her one more time. She was working in a bar in sol 33 in Feb, but is now in Rainbow 4. So she clocks me last night and was happy as a pig in shit, when i greated her by her name,she was so made up and remembered that i treated her well and we enjoyed the time together, so she decides picks a friend to go with us, i barfine the friend 600 and give her 2000 for short/medium time , and she said she barfined herself after talking to mamasan,if she did or not who cares. she stayed till the morning for another round after a night with both of them,and all she wanted was a cab fare home asking for 100 baht.,me being a true gent gave her 150.. !!
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]]> By: Smiler http://www.2thebigmango.com/reader-submissions/2008/09/13/the-dummies-guide-to-negotiating-price-with-gogo-girls-by-suk-psycho/#comment-150294 Smiler Tue, 16 Sep 2008 20:22:12 +0000 http://www.2thebigmango.com/?p=2143#comment-150294 Great thread guys - this paying prostitutes for sex thing is obviously a personal one and like WW, I find myself in agreement with both sides of the debate. We all have our own way of doing it and to my mind whatever works for you - works for you. Great thread guys - this paying prostitutes for sex thing is obviously a personal one and like WW, I find myself in agreement with both sides of the debate. We all have our own way of doing it and to my mind whatever works for you - works for you.
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]]> By: Pattaya Ghost http://www.2thebigmango.com/reader-submissions/2008/09/13/the-dummies-guide-to-negotiating-price-with-gogo-girls-by-suk-psycho/#comment-150257 Pattaya Ghost Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:38:14 +0000 http://www.2thebigmango.com/?p=2143#comment-150257 Two oddball examples from this weekend: Sunday - Erotica / Nana Plaza -- What I deemed the hottest girl in the place (at 1 a.m., mind you) agrees to go LT for 2,000, which was my first offer. Stunned, a recofnirmed that I was talking LT for 2K, not ST. She reconfirmed, gave me 3 rounds and offered to stay with me throughout the day. I declined, but she returned to fetch a fotgotten personal item in a long red dress. She said she was off to Ballroom Dancing practice at 5. Monday - Sheba's / Cowboy -- Lovely, tiny, 20-yo, very affectionate thing has the oddest pricing scheme I'd heard in 5 years. Said she'd go LT for 2,500, but ST was 2,000. Not enough English to explain why that was though. But having had 3 rounds with Ms. Erotica and 3 rounds at Tulip, I wasn't really up to paying even that. I went back to the hotel and got a good ngiht's sleep. Two oddball examples from this weekend:

Sunday - Erotica / Nana Plaza — What I deemed the hottest girl in the place (at 1 a.m., mind you) agrees to go LT for 2,000, which was my first offer. Stunned, a recofnirmed that I was talking LT for 2K, not ST. She reconfirmed, gave me 3 rounds and offered to stay with me throughout the day. I declined, but she returned to fetch a fotgotten personal item in a long red dress. She said she was off to Ballroom Dancing practice at 5.

Monday - Sheba’s / Cowboy — Lovely, tiny, 20-yo, very affectionate thing has the oddest pricing scheme I’d heard in 5 years. Said she’d go LT for 2,500, but ST was 2,000. Not enough English to explain why that was though. But having had 3 rounds with Ms. Erotica and 3 rounds at Tulip, I wasn’t really up to paying even that. I went back to the hotel and got a good ngiht’s sleep.
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]]> By: Daywalker http://www.2thebigmango.com/reader-submissions/2008/09/13/the-dummies-guide-to-negotiating-price-with-gogo-girls-by-suk-psycho/#comment-150225 Daywalker Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:58:45 +0000 http://www.2thebigmango.com/?p=2143#comment-150225 "I have calculations in my head already and will pay depending on experience with a base salary then going up but it dependent on number of shags, fun factor, nasty factor.. ect.. it all plays a roll." - yeah.. sounds like loads of fun that? I got a headache just reading it. And as for Zepplin comment 'get back more than you give'.. doesn't that make you the brass? ;) :mrgreen: “I have calculations in my head already and will pay depending on experience with a base salary then going up but it dependent on number of shags, fun factor, nasty factor.. ect.. it all plays a roll.”

- yeah.. sounds like loads of fun that? I got a headache just reading it.

And as for Zepplin comment ‘get back more than you give’.. doesn’t that make you the brass? ;)

:mrgreen:
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]]> By: GoodLife http://www.2thebigmango.com/reader-submissions/2008/09/13/the-dummies-guide-to-negotiating-price-with-gogo-girls-by-suk-psycho/#comment-150221 GoodLife Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:44:56 +0000 http://www.2thebigmango.com/?p=2143#comment-150221 I think WW sums up how i play the "game" and it really is a game we play. It's a chase of how much fun can you have. The difference is how you define fun: Is fun getting the cheapest lay? Enjoying a GFE? Banging Like a Pornstar? the list can go on. I used to negotiate before but these days i find myself only talking about how long she will hang with me and this is after the BF when we are having some fun.. I have calculations in my head already and will pay depending on experience with a base salary then going up but it dependent on number of shags, fun factor, nasty factor.. ect.. it all plays a roll. I have found lately that i have not paid a BF in BKK the last few times i have gone, i have hit the clubs (discos) early and usually find someone i want to shag by 12AM-1AM, i am a late sleeper and dont wake up until 4PM the next day so my monger time if different. Again great discussion. I haven't found too many disparaging remarks after all we are big boys and this is the net.. we do not all express ourselves the same way. GL I think WW sums up how i play the “game” and it really is a game we play. It’s a chase of how much fun can you have.

The difference is how you define fun: Is fun getting the cheapest lay? Enjoying a GFE? Banging Like a Pornstar? the list can go on.

I used to negotiate before but these days i find myself only talking about how long she will hang with me and this is after the BF when we are having some fun..

I have calculations in my head already and will pay depending on experience with a base salary then going up but it dependent on number of shags, fun factor, nasty factor.. ect.. it all plays a roll.

I have found lately that i have not paid a BF in BKK the last few times i have gone, i have hit the clubs (discos) early and usually find someone i want to shag by 12AM-1AM, i am a late sleeper and dont wake up until 4PM the next day so my monger time if different.

Again great discussion. I haven’t found too many disparaging remarks after all we are big boys and this is the net.. we do not all express ourselves the same way.

GL
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]]> By: zepplin http://www.2thebigmango.com/reader-submissions/2008/09/13/the-dummies-guide-to-negotiating-price-with-gogo-girls-by-suk-psycho/#comment-150161 zepplin Tue, 16 Sep 2008 09:26:41 +0000 http://www.2thebigmango.com/?p=2143#comment-150161 big kenny you hit the nail on the head there mate,its great fun to get them to wear something nice,then spend a couple of hours taking them out,having a good time,making both of you laugh,have a drink or two,even taking then to a moovie and having fun in there-point is anything different than wham bham thank you mham.i always find the more relaxed you can get them with you the better the sex,i even give some a massage first ,but ive never had a sour face or bad sex from them if you treat them like your girlfriend-ive even had a few freebies offered that way.the saying you get what you pay for means nothing -more you get back what you give works better for me. ok im working on a samui posting for all bbk boys .cheers rt big kenny you hit the nail on the head there mate,its great fun to get them to wear something nice,then spend a couple of hours taking them out,having a good time,making both of you laugh,have a drink or two,even taking then to a moovie and having fun in there-point is anything different than wham bham thank you mham.i always find the more relaxed you can get them with you the better the sex,i even give some a massage first ,but ive never had a sour face or bad sex from them if you treat them like your girlfriend-ive even had a few freebies offered that way.the saying you get what you pay for means nothing -more you get back what you give works better for me.

ok im working on a samui posting for all bbk boys .cheers rt
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]]> By: BigBabyKenny http://www.2thebigmango.com/reader-submissions/2008/09/13/the-dummies-guide-to-negotiating-price-with-gogo-girls-by-suk-psycho/#comment-149999 BigBabyKenny Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:53:12 +0000 http://www.2thebigmango.com/?p=2143#comment-149999 First of all thank you for the mention of my original post. One thing to keep in mind when negotiating price which wasn’t mentioned in the original post is that the first time price establishes a minimum price which is damn near impossible to reduce on future visits. For most guys who spend more than a few weeks in Bangkok on a vacation, the first time with a GoGo girl is like a test drive. If everything is good and the girl is fun, the girl will go on The List and when you are in the mood and have the time, you will drop by the bar and take her home again and again and again. If you get lazy negotiating the first barfine, the additional money will snowball on future visits because the girl will expect the same money and even with the negotiation skills of Henry Kissinger and the social empathy of Oprah you will not be able to get her to go for less because it implies that you were unhappy on previous bangs. The extra 500 or 1000 THB can become several thousand if you end up barfining the girl multiple times. On the flip side, if you stiff a girl her particular GoGo bar will likely become off limits to you for the foreseeable future. You can visit the bar, but getting another girl from the bar to go home with you is going to be difficult. Word will be passed that you stiffed the girl. The reason you stiffed her will likely get lost in translation and you will be marked as a guy to avoid. If you are on a short Bangkok vacation this probably doesn’t matter but if you live or spend extended periods of time in Bangkok, writing off one of the major GoGo’s is not costless. A second point is that I LIKE to buy the girl a drink and talk to her a little because it is an effective way of gathering intelligence about the girl. The GoGo’s are covered in beautiful girls so if your only objective is to bang a beautiful girl that is pretty straightforward. Like most Bangkok regulars the novelty of banging beautiful girls has worn off. What I am looking to do is bang girls that are beautiful and fun to be with. The surefire way to determine if a girl is going to be fun to bang is, oddly enough, to talk to her. A lot of GoGo girls are fun to take out on the town. Personally, I enjoy it when a hot sexy girl dresses up nice to please me, I take her to a disco where I liquor her up, dirty dance with her to get her all heated up, and THEN take her home, peel her out of her clothes, and bang her silly. So I don’t think taking GoGo girls our for a night on the town or buying them drinks is always time and money flushed down the toilet. Depending on the girl and the situation it can be either an investment or part of the fun. BigBabyKenny First of all thank you for the mention of my original post.

One thing to keep in mind when negotiating price which wasn’t mentioned in the original post is that the first time price establishes a minimum price which is damn near impossible to reduce on future visits.

For most guys who spend more than a few weeks in Bangkok on a vacation, the first time with a GoGo girl is like a test drive. If everything is good and the girl is fun, the girl will go on The List and when you are in the mood and have the time, you will drop by the bar and take her home again and again and again.

If you get lazy negotiating the first barfine, the additional money will snowball on future visits because the girl will expect the same money and even with the negotiation skills of Henry Kissinger and the social empathy of Oprah you will not be able to get her to go for less because it implies that you were unhappy on previous bangs. The extra 500 or 1000 THB can become several thousand if you end up barfining the girl multiple times.

On the flip side, if you stiff a girl her particular GoGo bar will likely become off limits to you for the foreseeable future. You can visit the bar, but getting another girl from the bar to go home with you is going to be difficult. Word will be passed that you stiffed the girl. The reason you stiffed her will likely get lost in translation and you will be marked as a guy to avoid. If you are on a short Bangkok vacation this probably doesn’t matter but if you live or spend extended periods of time in Bangkok, writing off one of the major GoGo’s is not costless.

A second point is that I LIKE to buy the girl a drink and talk to her a little because it is an effective way of gathering intelligence about the girl. The GoGo’s are covered in beautiful girls so if your only objective is to bang a beautiful girl that is pretty straightforward. Like most Bangkok regulars the novelty of banging beautiful girls has worn off. What I am looking to do is bang girls that are beautiful and fun to be with. The surefire way to determine if a girl is going to be fun to bang is, oddly enough, to talk to her.

A lot of GoGo girls are fun to take out on the town. Personally, I enjoy it when a hot sexy girl dresses up nice to please me, I take her to a disco where I liquor her up, dirty dance with her to get her all heated up, and THEN take her home, peel her out of her clothes, and bang her silly.

So I don’t think taking GoGo girls our for a night on the town or buying them drinks is always time and money flushed down the toilet. Depending on the girl and the situation it can be either an investment or part of the fun.

BigBabyKenny
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]]> By: Jimmy Cricket http://www.2thebigmango.com/reader-submissions/2008/09/13/the-dummies-guide-to-negotiating-price-with-gogo-girls-by-suk-psycho/#comment-149913 Jimmy Cricket Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:23:29 +0000 http://www.2thebigmango.com/?p=2143#comment-149913 I've got to speak with them a short while (at least). I find if I can have a laugh with them in the bar and 'click', it will transfer to the bedroom. I have done the 'pick the most beautiful' or pick one without talking (beyond the price) and it's been shit sex. And sometimes I don't barfine the first time I see her. It may take a few visits to the bar before I decide. Not one will ever control my emotions. If I don't get to fuck the ones I want to, it's no big deal, there are loads of other (new) ones about. I’ve got to speak with them a short while (at least).
I find if I can have a laugh with them in the bar and ‘click’, it will transfer to the bedroom.

I have done the ‘pick the most beautiful’ or pick one without talking (beyond the price) and it’s been shit sex.

And sometimes I don’t barfine the first time I see her. It may take a few visits to the bar before I decide.

Not one will ever control my emotions.
If I don’t get to fuck the ones I want to, it’s no big deal, there are loads of other (new) ones about.
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]]> By: Cabby http://www.2thebigmango.com/reader-submissions/2008/09/13/the-dummies-guide-to-negotiating-price-with-gogo-girls-by-suk-psycho/#comment-149907 Cabby Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:01:03 +0000 http://www.2thebigmango.com/?p=2143#comment-149907 I find a girl or mamasun wanting to negotiate a price is one of the signs of a crap time, right up there with 'want two ladies?'. I just state how much I pay if they ask (same everywhere - don't want girls pissed off at me because they find out I paid someone more), and I don't budge - Mai dai (cannot), mai bpen rai (don't worry about it). Find the hot girls who think having sex with you would be fun, or at least an entertaining way of making money rather than a chore. They are out there. Tip them with repeat business. I find a girl or mamasun wanting to negotiate a price is one of the signs of a crap time, right up there with ‘want two ladies?’. I just state how much I pay if they ask (same everywhere - don’t want girls pissed off at me because they find out I paid someone more), and I don’t budge - Mai dai (cannot), mai bpen rai (don’t worry about it).

Find the hot girls who think having sex with you would be fun, or at least an entertaining way of making money rather than a chore. They are out there. Tip them with repeat business.
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