Last week I was working with the employees of an American company that has operations here in Bangkok. It’s a multinational name that all of you would be familiar with – a truly globe-straddling enterprise. I asked a few employees to prepare some simple worksheet projections for me to show WEEKLY projections for the next four years.
I expected to get columns totaling 208 weeks.
Instead, I received projections from two employees – employees with university degrees who hold respected jobs in this global company – each with 192 weeks.
I was puzzled.
Not unusually, I was eating lunch in a restaurant in Sukhumvit when I opened the reports on my computer to review them. I happened to be sitting at the bar, so I looked at the bartender and asked her how many weeks there are in one year.
“Oooh!” she exclaimed, as if I’d just asked her to explain the subtleties of Einstein’s general theory of relativity. “One moment!”
She actually grabbed a calculator. A few keystrokes later she beamed at me proudly, “Forty-eight!”
My brow furrowed. A waitress arrived at that moment to pick up a drink order. Like the bartender, I know the waitress well from too many three-Singha lunches, and I asked her the same question.
To her credit, she didn’t grab a calculator. She did the math out loud. “There are four weeks in a month and twelve months in a year, so that’s…. erm… forty-eight weeks in a year!”
She looked at me expectantly. I held my head in my hands.
The bartender and waitress looked at me. “Is it right?” one of them asked.
I answered ‘no’ that in fact there were 52 weeks in a year. The bartender asked if I was sure. The waitress immediately showed the light of dawning understanding in her face. “Because some months have two or three extra days, right?”
Close enough.
“That’s right” I answered.
Among most Thai people I am an intellectual giant. Oppenheimer had nothing on me!
Of the four people in this parable who thought that there are 48 weeks in a year, I blame none of them for being ignorant of this seemingly simple fact. After all, they all employed an identical means for arriving at their answer.
It speaks to a greater failing in Thailand .
Education.
A man could be forgiven for believing that the typical bar girl, who has a sixth-grade education, is exceptional in her ignorance, but in fact my experience tells me that little separates bar girls from university graduates in terms of what they actually know or critical thinking ability. In fact, my experience argues that bar girls may be smarter.
The two multinational employees I mentioned above both hold bachelor degrees from respected Thai universities. The two restaurant employees I mentioned are both high school graduates (I asked) and both of them have studied at a certificate level after high school.
Were this an isolated example I wouldn’t waste time writing about it. In fact, after three years here, I am surprised when a Thai person I meet knows anything of significance, no matter how impressive their academic qualifications.
I was recently in the company of more than a dozen Thai people; all of them managers, all with secondary degrees, and most with a scientific background. In general I’m talking about the upper half of the Thai education system.
I mentioned the name of Nelson Mandela. One face lit up with recognition, and over the next several minutes, one woman about my age lectured her colleagues about the basic facts of Mandela’s life. Some knew his name, fewer still knew that he had been President of South Africa, but only one shining star knew that he had been a political prisoner. She incorrectly put his term of imprisonment at more than 30 years instead of the actual number of 27, but it seemed a forgivable lapse.
With some prompting she went on to explain his imprisonment in terms of the better known Burmese (please forgive me; here in Thailand we don’t say Myanmar ) political activist (dare I say opposition leader?) Ang Yang Syu Kyi.
In a group of university-educated 40 year olds in nearly any country in the world, I would expect a comfortable familiarity with the name Nelson Mandela and his life. In Thailand my only surprise was that someone in the room actually knew some salient facts about him.
It’s a sad fact that the vast majority of Thais are not taught to think.
I don’t believe it’s because they don’t want to.
I have many Thai friends… many people I hold dear in my heart. They are born with the same ambition and curiosity inherent in all of us. But real education is reserved for the very, very few. Usually this means being educated abroad. By Thai standards, this means that true education is for the super-rich; one more way to maintain absolute control over a population of people who hunger for something without knowing exactly what it is.
As I sit here typing, I’m torn between two endings to this blog. In one ending, I personalize it – saying to readers that when you spend time around bar-girls, the daughters of ignorant farmers in an ignorant country – to understand who they are and that they are a product of a system that creates them.
In my other ending, I talk about the current political polarization of Thailand . About how it’s nothing new. About how it is a manifestation of a class-society where the under-class outnumbers the upper-class who are threatened by democracy and fighting back. About how the country will continue to suffer through periods of relative stability and instability as long as there is a system which keeps the under-classes ignorant and hungry for knowledge, while reserving knowledge, power and wealth for the chosen few.
I suspect that both endings will bore the readers.
So let me try a different ending.
Ignorance in Thailand is nothing new. It is perpetuated by the upper classes on purpose, and as long as you are a sex-tourist you should be happy about that.
In Thailand crisis is the norm. The only period of relative stability started with Thaksin’s first election as Prime Minister and lasted until he publicly announced the sale of Shincorp in 2005.
Thailand has been in crisis – not for days, months, years or even decades – but for centuries. Like Africa , Thailand lives in chaos.
Education, or lack thereof, is one of the tools that is used in Thailand to separate the rulers from the ruled. Three years ago when I first arrived in Thailand I might have said that international visitors, the internet, etc were changing all that.
Now I’m not so sure.
Thailand IS in crisis. But here, that’s condition normal.
That’s why the Thai baht is weak. That’s why beautiful and kind women work as prostitutes. That’s why things are so fucked up that no matter who you are, Thailand can welcome you.
The people who love living in Thailand or visiting regularly say ‘thank you’ every day for the fact that Thailand is so fucked up. It’s what creates the paradise that we can’t find at home.
So, if you are a dedicated sex-tourist or sex-pat like me, then root for the political crisis to continue. Do not bemoan ignorance, cheer for it. Do not fret about instability, be happy about it. Do not seek to make things better for Thailand , instead, do your best to support chaos.
Pray that ‘common’ Thais are never educated; that they never rise to the level of other countries – your home and mine – or we may lose the land and the people we love so much.
Always remember that Thailand is what it is because even people with university educations think that there are 48 weeks in a year. It’s not stupid, exactly… it’s just wrong.
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View all comments by Bangkok Bad Boy
A really good, thoughtful post. You should write a blog.
View all comments by Pants Elk
@ PE - nah - he’d never keep it up
View all comments by doctorbond
I thought WW said that he had nothing left to say!
View all comments by KTBanker
Critical thinking is the key underlying skill that is lacking in the Thai education system. I’ve tutored Thai students completing Master and PhD degrees at Australian Universities and have yet to encounter a student with critical thinking ability developed to any significant degree.
View all comments by Upcountry Man
You are so right, I had always had the same thoughts about this!
Thats why i never understand why all this exoats always want that Thailand gets better. I know its a very egoistic way of thinking.
But hey we are sex tourists!
View all comments by Politicsx
I once showed a picture of Adolf Hitler in a teacher’s staff meeting in a private Thai school. There were about 120 Thai teachers and not one had a clue who it was. When I mentioned that he was a famous German someone suggested that it was Franz Beckenbauer!
A similar party game was to ask a number of Thai teachers to locate Thailand on a map of the world. Without fail they all ummed and errrred before pointing to Turkey; presumably they figured that it began with a “T” and was at the centre of the world.
I lived with a girl for a year who had a Master’s degree in Political Science yet didn’t know the difference between a Prime Minister and a President.
The education system in Thailand is non-existent. There is however an indocrination system through which all Thais must experience a number of years in order to make sure they conform to society. Having an education in Thailand, as I am sure everyone here is well aware, is a question of having enough money to enrol in a university and get passed and those with degrees are generally equally as clueless as those without - just as WW pointed out.
It’s a lot like Dr Suess’s Sneetches where the star-belly sneetches get frankfurter roast and marshmallow toasts and the no-star sneetches get nothing: but they are all as dim-witted as each other. In fact, in another analogy to the sneetches, Taksin is very much like Sylvester McMonkey McBean proposing a solution to the issue in which the only net result is him getting rich. If you don’t know what I am waffling on about get a copy of Dr Suess’s The Sneetches, it’s great.
Fortunately for us lot, here in Thailand the no-star sneetches are to be found in and around Sukhumvit Road, Pattaya, Patong and a few other places selling their snatches for a negotiable price. Hooray!
View all comments by Nok Opayop
I’ve never understood the inability of many Thais to find their own country on a map of the world - that does indeed seem especially damning although not being able to recognise Adolf Hilter is not. Why would they know about European wars and how many Asian warlords would we recognise? Their take on the world is different and we need to bear that in mind
This is best illustrated by a Thai Uni student I know - she was asking me to help her with ideas for an essay. She said it was about racism in the US in the 1950’s.
It took a short while before we realised we were talking about two different things. I had naturally thought she meant racism towards US African Americans but the topic she had been given to address was racism towards the US of Japanese origin.
View all comments by doctorbond
“I lived with a girl for a year who had a Master’s degree in Political Science yet didn’t know the difference between a Prime Minister and a President.”
So tell me please….. what’s the difference between a Prime Minister, and a dumb fucking Jock taxman?
View all comments by Daywalker
10p in the pound
View all comments by doctorbond
I first travelled to Asia in the late 1970s. At that time, there was not a great difference between South Korea and Thailand. Both had gorgeous women who were very friendly, the P2P scene was thriving and prices were cheap.
Then the Koreans went and spoilt it all by investing in their people, with some of the best education systems in the world. Economic growth, social stability, democratic elections, the best telecommunications infrastructure in the world and prosperity all followed.
Now I know expats living in Seoul who come to Bangkok for the weekend to have fun, and your average Korean girl would rather eat shit than talk to a foreign man.
WW is right - we can always rely on Thailand to stuff it up, thank goodness.
View all comments by DutchClown
I do understand what you are saying, WW.
But at the same time I wonder: what difference does it make in life whether you know who Mandela is, or what Hitler looks like? Yes, pretty much common knowledge to us Westerners, but is it of any use?
BTW: Do some research into the stupidity of American pupils/students. I remember reading very surprising reports about that.
I believe that in the West “the system” is very similar to how it is in Thailand, it is just handled differently, so we have the impression of living in a “proper” democracy.
I once worked with a Swiss guy who adored the US. A love I did and do not share. He summed it up this way (he had also spent time working in Russia): “The Russians have/own f*** all, they know it, and are depressed about it. The Americans also own f*** all, but they believe the world belongs to them, and are ignorant of the fact that they live on borrowed money, and think that they are happy. I’d rather live with the ignorant bunch.”
Not sure the last paragraph has anything to do with this post, but so what…
View all comments by rick
Asked my wife how many weeks in the year there are and she replied “52″ without thinking. Phew!
DB - Hey, I know my Asian Warlords: Ghengis Khan, Bruce Lee, That bloke in Pirates of the Caribbean……… errr, Thaksin? Sondhi Limthongkul? OK I haven’t a clue, point taken.
Anyway, they say ignorance is bliss. Maybe that is why Thailand is such a fun place to be.
View all comments by Nok Opayop
@ Nok Op - you could try them with pictures of the Japanese war leaders from WW2 ? Not that the Japanese really fought the Thais - they just sorta passed through the country on the way to Burma to give us Brits a bit of a kicking - then we had to build that damned railway….
View all comments by doctorbond
Hell, you ain’t seen ignorance ’till u set a spell in a single-wide mobile home park straddling the West Virginia/Tennesee line (in other words, Pailin supporters).
And, BTW, is Thailand “really so f*cked up”? Tne BTS runs like clockwork (as long as your clock stops at midnight), the food’s some of the best in the world (if we only had In & Out), taxis are a couple of bucks a throws and the 7/11’s are well stocked. And then there’s Noi, Nit, Nong, Nat and Nui. That’s f ed up?
View all comments by jack dawson
Well, ignorance is defined as a Nobama supporter but let’s leave it at that.
WW…you should be happy that they at least knew how to use a spreadsheet. In “CFO” magazine, there are horror stories about people entering columns of numbers and then using a calculator to sum said column. These stories are from CFOs in the U.S. and England, btw.
View all comments by The Asian Badger
It is not that questions of world history are unfair, but instead you may choose what would be basic elementary or secondary curriculum most anywhere (including developing countries).
Ask questions of basic science (why are there tides?), geography (name the bordering countries), history of Thailand (other than the names of Kings and the years of their reign), simple maths like percentage calculations. Ask them in the most select programs at the best universities in the country, in front of the sons and daughters of the elite.
Then cover your ears to maintain your own sanity.
Education, like pretty well any government-run institution in Thailand, is a joke. It is never safe to assume that someone here with a graduate, or even post graduate degree has a fundamental understanding of their world. It is, however, very safe to assume that they lack problem solving skills, critical thinking and context.
View all comments by Professor
OK. Your post may be a bit patronising, but there are some parts of this story that I agree with. It is true that the Thai rulers do not want the lower class to have the ability to think things through critically and logically because it is never going to benefit the rulers in any way. Instead, they just bombard those who know no better with propaganda via the media. As for the people who contribute to this ongoing Thai political crisis, they are liars; and those who support them, albeit they know what is going on, do it as it is also beneficial to them in some way.
By the way, WW, I would love to link back to yout blog but I am not sure if you are still displaying a particular kind of picture which I consider unsuitable for my younger readers.
View all comments by Oneditorial
WW, nice write-up. So true. I once wrote a similar post.
http://phoenix8.wordpress.com/2008/01/18/thailand-please-stay-poor-a-polemic/
From a sex-tourist’s point of view, the present power struggle is great news. For the Mango Bar owners surely not.
One of the largest travel agencies in my country offered a full refund for everybody who booked a holiday in BKK due to the recent trouble. Bad news for the bars and the girls I guess.
If Thailand would become as wealthy as South-Korea I would travel to the Philippines or elsewhere. That simple.
View all comments by Phoenix
In answer to your earlier question Mr Daywalker
One would be an untrustworthy duplicitous megalomaniac egotistical w4nker, the other a fat untrustworthy duplicitous megalomaniac egotistical w4nker
There is not much to choose between any of them, they all lack of principles and honesty, it’s just that some are fatter than others.
View all comments by Spyker
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seYUbVa7L7w
PRICELESS.Watch the whole thing.
View all comments by Mr Right
The root of the problem which you are talking about is the general inability of normal and even educated Thai’s to read or speak English fluently.
How many Thai’s even the educated ones can speak or, more importantly read, English? Damn few in my experience.
Without the ability to read English, accessing information about and from the outside world is well nigh impossible.
The internet is great but if you cannot read English you cannot use it learn things or keep up with current events.
If you go into a Thai bookstore or even peruse the shelves of a university library like Ramkahaeng, and look at the Thai language titles available what you find is that there are none.
That is because Thailand is a poor country,there aren’t enough Thais and they don’t have enough disposable income to support much of a market in Thai language titles.
If Thai is the only language you can read you cannot read to find out how to operate you personal computer, you are limited to reading Thai language newspapers which offer biased accounts of events, you cannot shop for the best prices on goods and services, and you cannot improve yourself through education. The Thai language books and websites just don’t exist.
Even at the major universities, most classes are taught with Thai language textbooks that are rip offs of English language titles and are decades out of date. This is because Thai students are too poor to spend a couple of hundred dollars on books each semester and there aren’t many universities or university students to make writing Thai language textbooks profitable.
The general level of ignorance is not due to lack of curiosity or desire for eduction among normal Thais. It is due to the lack of a basic prerequisite needed to acquire knowledge–fluency in English.
BigBabyKenny
View all comments by BigBabyKenny
I followed Nok Opayop lead, she said 52.
yep……Phew!!!!!!!!
View all comments by jay
How many Thai’s even the educated ones can speak or, more importantly read, English? Damn few in my experience.
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You must hang with an interesting crowd. In my 10 years of living here, I’ve found that Thais read English better than they speak it. The only reason they don’t speak it better is the lack of confidence to speak it more often.
For anyone that has been to Japan, the same is true there too.
View all comments by Reply
Nothing to say…..hmmm?
View all comments by nurseRon
BTW WW, this is a great segue into finishing the Thailand/Issan piece!
View all comments by nurseRon
Having a Thai university degree is the equivalent to having a public high school education from Alabama.
With all the comments bashing the Thai education system, it makes you wonder why everyone gets so excited about hooking up with “uni girls”…
View all comments by anon
There is actually 52.14 weeks in a year. Unless it is a leap year then there is 52.29 weeks in a year. It seems not only the Thai education system is lacking.
View all comments by Wombat
@Wombat - So very true! try using “there are…” for plural nouns (weeks).
View all comments by Rene Descartes
Excellent post - deserves to be posted to Prachatai.com (without the sex references!).
I work with over 500 Thai staff in a large engineering company, many with masters. When I started I was stunned at the level of ignorance of the outside world, together with the inability to think in a practical, logical manner. Very few have opinions on anything, and when they do they tend to be simplistic, usually borrowed from the media.
Critical thinking is lacking not just in Thailand but throughout most of Asia. The difference between the way Asians and Westerners think is detailed nicely in “The Geography of Thought” by Richard Nisbett, if anyone’s interested in the subject.
But in Thailand the general quality of education is incredibly low - from pre-school through to University, from TV programming to a parents (in)ability to educate their children. Last year the Ministry of Education published the results of a wide-ranging survey on the IQ levels of kids leaving high school. The results warranted a brief mention on page three of the Bangkok Post, and no comment from the Ministry. The average score? 87 - the same as a rural farmer with no education and close enough to 80 - the score for a retard.
Sucessive Governments’ failure to address substandard education in Thailand is one of the reasons (along with corruption, incompetence and the legal system) why I believe Thailand will continue it’s economic slide relative to it’s smarter, faster growing neighbours.
View all comments by Mark Lamerton
One of my favorite questions to ask Thai’s: “Where was the King born?”. About nine of ten get it wrong in my sampling.
View all comments by pmmp
One of my favorite questions to ask Thais: “Who’s your daddy?” About nine of ten get it wrong in my sampling.
View all comments by Rene Descartes
I agree with Anon!
I see the ‘Uni-girls’ as being in the education system… so not yet fully educated.
Unlike a crack whore who knows everything.
View all comments by Daywalker
Some coruscatingly brilliant stuff in these comments, but I love this:
“Unlike a crack whore who knows everything.”
The thorny question of IQ tests is raised again; just as brilliance at chess (a very fine measure of one kind of intelligence) signifies brilliance at chess and nothing more, and a facility with the karaoke microphone does not necessarily indicate sexual skills, the IQ test actually shows nothing more than how good you are are at IQ tests. I suspect most Asian people are more than a little bemused by the very idea of taking it. They certainly couldn’t care less how “intelligent” we think they are. I think Theravada Buddhism is at the core of this, as it is at the core of much of what we find baffling (and even stupid) about Thai life. And for the record, I’m with them.
View all comments by Pants Elk
pmmp:… I had to google the answer to your question.
“Elvis was born in a two room house in Tupelo, Mississippi. Elvis’ father and uncle built the house themselves in 1934″.
View all comments by Daywalker
Uh, I think the Thai’s got it right, almost.
Living so much in the moment of today, they forgot the 13th month.
(4 weeks per month x 13 months = 52 weeks)
(The 13th month is so forgettable because it happens during the rainy season - when it drags on…)
View all comments by ArtTv
And it’s so incredibly different back home?
Every time I get onto my high horse reading threads like these, reminiscing on how I figured out all the problems of Thailand, I realise they’re the exact same problems back in Australia, albeit on a better veiled platform with slightly less corruption.
And being spiritual about it makes most of what the education system is about into null, it teaches facts about things that have nothing to do with the most important event in your life, death.
Feel free to ask any westerner how they feel about dieing or death, that’s the epitome of stupidity for the living.
View all comments by Xao
um. in Thailand they do in fact say “Myanmar” but they pronounce it “myan-mah”…do you, in fact, ever talk to Thai people?
View all comments by jonbanger
jonbanger: I speak to dozens of Thai people weekly, and have spoken to thousands of Thais in the last three years. They rarely use the name Myanmar, nearly always referring to the country as Burma.
View all comments by Werewolf
Burma is in China, its where the brits built this railway for the japs, you can see the film called the Railway children. i never been there but i went to Maynmar once on a bank holiday and it was shut.
View all comments by Craigie-boy
Craigie-boy, as not even a sick Issan buffalo can be as stupid as you, I’m assuming you’re a post-modernist joke by the Times Literary Critic.
(If you’re for real, how about writing a piece for the blog? You could run your text past Penfold first, for editing.)
View all comments by Pants Elk
I have a real problem with stuff like this:
If the price I must pay to be a “sexpat” is to eternally damn Thai people to ignorance, political and economic exploitation and ignorance, then I don’t want to be a sexpat.
I think we should all strive to lift people up everywhere. They will always be places to get laid. But there are so many good “common” Thais who do not deserve the fate they are being dealt that I think it’s unconscionable to wish it to continue.
Yes, I’m being hypocritical. But I do want the country to get better and see the economic divide narrow and the the Thais to better themselves as the Koreans and Japanese did.
If that were to happen and it meant I lost a P4P playground, so be it.
View all comments by Pattaya Ghost
“I think we should all strive to lift people up everywhere. They will always be places to get laid. But there are so many good “common” Thais who do not deserve the fate they are being dealt that I think it’s unconscionable to wish it to continue…If that were to happen and it meant I lost a P4P playground, so be it.”
Well said Pattaya Ghost, couldn’t have worded it any better. My sentiments exactly.
View all comments by Phil Ander
PG and PA -
I agree and was waiting for some to chime in on that. Look at places like Burma that are seeing huge amounts of young girls entering the biz cause burma sucks so bad. That is some very sad shit.
I honestly do not believe it is because girls cannot do anything else that forces them into the biz in places like Thailand. It is also laziness, terrible parental structure and racism. Meaning dark skinned girls can get educated all they want and still not get great jobs. Thais can work as managers of pubs and make more money than office girls can with bigger degrees. So the place is messed up and the biz is so ingrained in society that I do not think we need to wish for poverty and pathetic education to keep it going.
The powers that be could decide to eradicate the nightlife and the biz, sometimes it feels like they do that already, but that would only make things worse since then the options for people who think they have no other choice will be lost.
Thailand seems to enjoy sanuk or fun and that is why so much of all this exists - coupled with the fact that locals and foreigners alike seem willing to pay for it.
I always hope the best for Thailand but somehow I think things won’t change much but I hope the people of Thailand get better than what they have now.
View all comments by sideshowBOB
PG: C’mon man… you know about irony don’t you? You don’t think those words were meant to be taken at face value?! I mean, read the last sentence of the blog and imagine, for a moment, that I’m not a complete moron.
Why do you think this statement was in the middle of the blog:
People here yawn when political opinions drive the blogs. ‘Tell me about P4P’ they cry. Okay… I gave them a P4P ending, and in it’s absurdity I tried to wrap the real message inside.
Sorry if it was so poorly written that it wasn’t obvious.
Here’s what it really means when it’s ‘decoded’:
“Normal” Thai people deserve better than they get, and the leadership of this country needs to improve. As foreigners in Thailand, I would hope that we can all help Thailand improve. Anyone who doesn’t agree is simply selfish.
View all comments by Werewolf
WW - i get your point and I can see how it can be seen other ways. So no drama. I do here people talk about the place in such a light that they hope the place does not get better so that girls are forced to sell themselves. Not saying that is your position or not but I think it is a sad way to look at it.
In my opinion there will always be a trade here and I also think guys are truly blessed to be here even if they are not into p4p.
cool cool
View all comments by sideshowBOB
WW — I would never say it was “poorly written.” I read to the end, which says it wasn’t.
Having said that, I didn’t get your coded jest and did, indeed, take it at face value. As I’ve met you, I did find it a bit odd, but those that haven’t would have no frame of reference.
Of course, maybe I’m just dense.
View all comments by The Ghost
Sometimes you have to admire Thai practicality without moralizing…
For example, an article entitled “HOW TO TELL YOUR FARANG HUSBAND YOU WANT A DIVORCE” in Pattaya Daily News.
http://www.pattayadailynews.com/showfeature.php?FeatureID=0000000904
Note Tip #4 at the end of the article:
4. Don’t shoot him because you will end up paying a lot of money to the police and left you nothing.
Gotta love ‘em!
View all comments by Rene Descartes
That is way funny
like this one too:
12. Don’t be spiteful when telling your spouse, remember that you did love them at one time.
not sure that is true though…
View all comments by sideshowBOB
“Hello…” “Six days” “What”? “Your gonna die in six days.” Wait don’t I get a week? So how many days are in a year? Why is the math not being done? Numbers are universal.
ML and BBK I ran across a pretty intelligent free lancer that was university educated and had a critical thought process that shocked the hell out of me. She spent some time trying to conceal her ability to speak perfect English; also the fact that she had a Thai husband but that is besides the point here our conversation went from sex to how Farang are messing up young Thai’s lives. The ability for Thai’s to learn is there it just depends on the girl and her ambition. I like sex so I had to shut that conversation down.
DC… Too funny about the Korean Girls however true as transaction of a bar fine, they would really rather eat shit than to talk to a foreigner.
View all comments by Xagrin
RD
The Irony is that its written in English, and as has just been pointed out the majority of Thais won’t be able to read it!
View all comments by Spyker