This is not a Dummies Guide to G-Clubs. If you want some general information about how G-Clubs work, pricing, memberships, fees, etc. check out these posts:
G-Clubs cost a lot of money and take a lot of time. Whether the benefits are greater than the costs is an unsettled and mostly personal question. If you have the time and money and are looking to bang and hang with particular types of girls, G-Clubs might be for you. If you are on short time, short money, or GoGo and Bierbar girls are doing it for you, G-Clubs are not for you.
This is a Dummies Guide to Banging G-Club girls, i.e. if you decide to patronize a G-Club how do you successfully and economically bang the girls of your choice?
G-Clubs are not like GoGo’s and Bierbars where barfining and banging the girls is part of the business model and the club’s economic interest is to make the exchange simple, transparent, and minimize transaction costs. The G-Club has no direct financial interest in you banging the girls. In fact, G-Club management would prefer you not bang the girls as long as you continue visiting the club to see them and give the club money. Banging is a private transaction and doing it incorrectly will burn a lot of cash and leave you frequently frustrated.
This post provides some help becoming proficient at banging the G-Club girl of your choice. Once it is explained and you get the hang of it, upping your batting average is straightforward and easy to accomplish. You might even become enamored and addicted to G-Clubs and G-Club girls and leave the farang GoGo and bierbars of Nana, Patpong, and Sukhumvit behind you.
To make this easier to digest, I will break it down into steps.
FIRST STEP-ARRIVING AT THE CLUB
Do you arrive early or late at the G-Club of your choice?
Arriving early has the advantage that most of the hostesses and dancers are available. You can scope the whole lineup, and choose the best girls to work on.1
If you arrive late, many if not most of the girls will have customers and be unavailable.
The downside of arriving early is the expense of taking a girl home that night.
G-Clubs make it prohibitively expensive for a girl to go home with a customer before closing. At G-clubs you pay for the girl by the hour—typically 400-500THB per drink at the upscale G-Clubs. Details vary but most commonly you have to pay as if you and the girl had stayed at the club until closing time even if you and the girl leave early.
The rules for barfining a girl vary from club to club. At the Pent you have to pay the club’s fee as if you stayed with the girl in the club until closing time. At other G-Clubs, you have to pay for a fixed number of drinks usually 6 if the girl leaves the club before closing time. No matter the details of a particular G-club’s rules, at 300-500 THB per drink barfining a G-Club girl burns a lot of baht.
Economically, the only way to take a G-Club girl home for banging is to arrive late and pay a minimum of time charges before leaving.
This is why the best time to arrive at a G-Club that closes at 2AM is after midnight. This leaves you about 2 hours to work and minimizes the drinks you buy for the girl.
SECOND STEP-CHOOSING A GIRL
G-Girl selection errors are costly both in time and money.
Choosing a girl means paying for at least one and usually two drinks for the first hour/40 minutes. If you make a mistake you are not only out the 800-1000 THB for the girl but also are in the awkward situation of sending the girl away and choosing another. Because of the Thai way of thinking this creates a loss of face for the girl (which you may not care about) but will severely reduce your chances that night with the next girl you choose (because the girls do care about the loss of face). So you must take care deciding which girl you try to bang.
When you arrive at the club, your mamasan/host will show you the girls that are available. Usually there is an area, referred to as the Girlpen, where unclaimed girls are sitting. You can check them out, ask them a few questions and make a decision.2
I personally prefer not to choose a girl right away even though the host/mamasan will pressure you to do so. It is better to get a table, order a bottle (or have your existing bottle brought out), and take the time to check out what is available.
What I suggest is that you meander over to the Girlpen and work your way down the lineup, talking to the girls, asking them a few questions, and, in general, give them the once over before making a selection.
It is perfectly OK, to ask the girls how old they are, whether they have children, whether they go to school, whether they have a boyfriend or sponsor already, are they bisexual, do they like to gamble, etc.3
Do not rely on the mamasan/hostess for information. Sometimes they will tell you the truth but more often they will lie to you.
Once you have found a likely prospect, let her come to your table.
THIRD STEP-NEGOTIATION
Once the girl is at your table determine efficiently and economically whether she will go home with you and under what terms.
The most important thing to keep in mind about G-Club girls is the incentive structure both hostesses and Coyote dancers are subject to.
G-Club girls are under heavy financial pressure to sell drinks and/or be selected by customers. At most G-Clubs there are way more girls than customers and many nights a girl will not get a customer. If this happens often enough the girl will not make any money but also in the end will get fired.
The Pent hostesses must sell over 100 drinks per month to get their full salary. If a guy reserves a hostess for the night, the girl gets credit for 7 drinks. If a guy picks a girl later in the evening, she gets credit for 1 drink per hour or 40 minutes depending on the club. You can do the math and see that a girl must sell about 5 or 6 drinks a day everyday of the month.4
This is why the Biergarten, Nana Parking Lot and the Thermae are full of ugly girls (as well as some very good looking girls) and ugly G-Club girls are rare. Ugly Biergarten and Thermae girls can survive with an occasional customer because it costs nothing to sit and wait for a customer. An ugly Biergarten or Thermae TG who averages one customer every three days will still get 10 customers every month. If she averages 1500THB per customer that is a monthly income of 15,000 THB—enough to survive but not prosper in Bangkok. Ugly girls at G-Clubs who only get an occasional customer won’t meet their quota and will end up working for nothing. That is why G-Club girls are on average better looking than girls you see at other venues—the economic forces a work weed out and eliminate the ugly girls.5
The incentive structure means G-Club girls value steady customers who will come around the club and choose them on a regular basis. Of course, they are not averse to a one-time shot of money, but these are few and far between. The bread and butter of the successful G-Club girl is her book of steadies who will make her life, i.e. meeting her monthly quota easy, painless, and hustle free.
Once you wrap your head around the incentive structure G-Club girls face you can exploit it to achieve your objective—economically and efficiently banging the G-Club girls of your choice.
The basic trick is to act as if you are going to be a regular steady customer and banging is a prerequisite of the deal. Of course, if the girls are cool, fun and hot you are going to be a regular steady customer and no acting will be required.
There are two ways to do this-the fast and slow way.
The Fast Way has the advantage of being fast but your batting average will be substantially lower compared to the slow way.
When using the Fast Way, talk to the girl a little when she first arrives at your table, ask for her phone number and ask what the arrangements are for calling ahead and reserving her for future evenings. This lets her know that future visits–aka a future stream of income is on the table and under negotiation.
The second thing is after a decent interval but before the clock has run out on the first hour/40 minutes broach the subject directly and early of going home after closing. Because the clock is running the girl has a financial interest in prevaricating. Don’t let her do it. Get a straight yes or no answer.
Be polite but straightforward and tell her directly that you want to go home with her that night. If she is not down with it, get rid of her politely and select another girl.
A common G-Club girl artifice/scam is to say she is not averse to going home but on that particular night she can’t. If the girl tries this, thank her politely, tell her you have her number and will call her on a subsequent night to see if she if free, and select another girl. Be polite but firm and keep your eye on the ball.
The girls know what the game is and play skillfully. Once the game is afoot, you should also play skillfully and to win. If the girl doesn’t want to go home that night, stop giving her money on that particular evening but do it in a way that leaves future engagements open—don’t burn any bridges.
Which leads us to the Slow Way—the preferred way which yields a much higher batting/banging average.
The Slow Way accepts that multiple trips are going to be required.
You buy a membership, visit the club on a semi-regular basis, and are going to work your way through the girl lineup—which at most clubs is over 100 girls.
Using the Slow Way, check out the girlpen each visit, but also scope the girls who already have customers.
If you see an unclaimed girl in the girlpen, of course, you are going to invite her to your table and pay her fee—at least for the first hour, but, also walk around the club and check out the girls who already have customers. When you find girls you like, point them out to your host/mamasan and ask her to arrange for the girl to visit your table when they are free. Performing this service is one of the reasons the host/mamasan exists and is the primary reason you tip them.
A common G-Club semi-scam is the mandatory drink for the host/mamasan. Many clubs will tell you that a drink for the host/mamasan is mandatory. It is not. The first time you visit the club you may have to buy a drink for the host/mamasan. The second time you should make it clear that you do not want the host/mamasan drink added on to your bill. If you visit the club multiple times, the mandatory mamasan drinks add up. Don’t wait until settlement time to dispute the mandatory mamasan/host drink. Proactively bring it up at the beginning of the evening. In the long run, you will save a lot of money.
Understanding the way billing is handled at G-Clubs will prevent you from being overcharged and cheated. The bread and butter of G-Clubs are repeat customers. Short term scamming is a profit reducing activity for G-Clubs. On the flip side, the G-Club wants to protect itself from customers who dispute legitimate charges and prevent the loss of a customer due to honest misunderstandings.
The way this is done is to create a clear indisputable audit trail so what has been ordered and owed is documented. The evidence for everything you order is left at your table/drink cart or is documented. The empty bottles for mixers are usually placed on the lower shelf of your drink cart so they can be counted and verified at settlement time. If you buy girls drinks, the waiter will bring a slip of paper for you to sign.
At settlement time, the waiter will bring you an itemized bill with all the signed slips of paper attached. There will be a cover sheet with an itemized list of charges and underneath will be the collection of signed slips documenting everything you have ordered.
It is prudent to check the bill carefully and make sure all charges are legit but the endemic cheating, scamming, and stealing at farang oriented businesses is largely absent.
Back to How to Bang G-Club Girls.
When the girls come to talk to you, introduce yourself, compliment them, indicate you are interested in seeing them during a future visit and get their phone number right away.
Your objective is to compile a book containing the phone numbers of all the girls you are interested in.
Once you have this book, instead of arriving at the club unprepared, you conduct a Girlstakes prior to arriving. A Girlstakes is conducted by SMS’ing all the girls in your book an hour or two before you arrive, finding out which ones are available and negotiating before you commit to visit the club.
If you have banged the girl before, be explicit and ask specifically whether she is available to go home with you after the club closes.
If you haven’t banged the girl before you should inquire in a polite indirect way whether she is up for it. The proper way to do this is to SMS if is she is interested in “going out” after the club closes. Leave vague exactly what “going out” entails but if she SMS’ she is busy after the club closes, strike her off the list for the evening and when you get to the club do not give her any business.
Of course, be polite to her, say hello and exchange pleasantries if she comes to the table, but do not give her any money/drinks/time charges. Don’t give her any money but don’t burn any bridges. You have established the ground rules and in a future Girlstakes your offer might get accepted.
If a girl calls you unsolicited, do the same thing. Negotiate before you commit to visiting the club.
The overarching principle behind dealing with G-Club girls is to settle what is going to transpire before you get to the club. Once you are at the club and the girl has joined you at your table, you will have paid her time fee and have zero negotiating power or recourse if things do not work themselves out the way you want. Avoid this at all costs. If you pre-negotiate, when you arrive at the club, you will already know that the girl is going to go home with you and when you pay for her time you will not be wasting your money.
Using the Slow Way, you use up your membership methodically working your way through the club’s girl inventory. As your visits add up, your G-Club circle of friends steadily widens. During each visit, you socialize with the girls you already know and make contact with the ones you don’t. Eventually, the club becomes a Girl Bank–a place where there is a collection of girls you know and who know you, who on any given night will drink and party with you, and will be available for banging.
Using the Slow Way, in my experience is fun and pleasurable. Visualize a neighborhood bar (sort of like The Big Mango) where everyone knows your name and you are always welcome-except in the G-Club neighborhood the bar is stocked with scores of young hot pretty sexually available girls who greet you warmly, are genuinely happy to see you, love to drink, get drunk, and have fun with you, don’t mind if you put your hands in all the wrong and nasty places, beg to dirty dance and freak you, use all the tools in their large skillset and do everything within their considerable power to torque you up, and whom you get to take home and bang.
What a fucking great country! I love Thailand!
If after reading this essay, it seems like banging G-Club girls is complicated and involved you are right.
G-Clubs are not designed for guys to quickly and efficiently peruse a menu of girls and select the one which they are going to bang that night. The upscale massage places like Poisiden exist for this purpose.
Most of the upscale G-Clubs mentioned on the internet primarily service Asian businessmen entertaining potential customers. These G-Clubs are setup so that a businessman can bring associates to the club, drink, and have acceptable, plentiful, and attractive female companionship for the evening albeit at a price. Banging G-Club girls at these G-Clubs is involved and complicated because you are using the club for a purpose it was not designed for.
One reason to do this is that G-Clubs girls are good looking. Besides being generally good looking, G-Club girls are different than the usual farang fare, i.e. GoGo and bierbar girls, because the economics self selects them to appeal to Asian tastes and please repeat customers. As a result, they are invariably politer, dress better (inside and outside the club), have superior social skills, paler skin, are taller, and lack the typical in-your-face hard edge that many GoGo and bierbar girls develop over time.
Once you leave the universe of upscale G-Clubs catering to Asian businessmen entertaining potential clients—this includes all the ones located near the farang areas-Sopranos, The Pent, The St. Moritz, etc., and enter the world of G-Clubs catering to normal albeit middle class and affluent Thais, the girls and the experience they offer are nothing like the usual farang GoGo fare–not only in looks, appearance, and presentation but in the way they interact with men.
G-Club girls choose whom they bang. They are not forced everyday to bang and deal with the loud, drunk, rude, obnoxious, sweaty, poorly dressed, smelly Eurotrash, English and Australian soccer thugs, and close to the line white trash endemic in the farang nightlife areas.6 They do not survive and are not beat down and transformed by the steady diet of quick cash from semi-scamming poorly informed tourists and hometown heroes whom they transact with once, extract maximum cash, and never see again.7
The G-Club girl experience is different. Rather than a one night stand where the girl gets some money, she has no interest in pleasing/satisfying you, and it pays her to do the minimum, G-Club girls come home with you expecting a longer term relationship.
Four out of five nights, the average G-Club girl goes home alone wishing that someone acceptable had shown interest in her. These girls are just surviving in The Big Mango and would be overjoyed at the opportunity for a semi-permanent, repeat, not necessarily exclusive arrangement, e.g. girlfriend, gik, mia noi, or just f-buddy.
I think the phrase “kinder and gentler” applies to G-Club girl banging—especially once you start patronizing the G-Clubs outside the farang areas—the ones with a Thai clientele. The girls know you are going to be banging, drinking, partying together multiple times and you represent a stream of income/fun/security that is worth nurturing and protecting. G-Club girl banging is ruled by a completely different dynamic than the typical GoGo/farang transaction because the G-club girls take care of their own financial interest by doing everything within their powers to make and keep you happy both inside and outside the club.
In the second part of The Dummies Guide To Banging G-Club Girls I will discuss a reasonable budget and how much money you should expect to spend patronizing G-Clubs.
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- A special note should be made here about The Pent. The Pent is popular with a couple of influential bloggers but what never gets written is that The Pent suffers from a severe girl shortage and is the worst of the farang orientied G-Clubs. In fact, The Pent’s girl shortage almost makes it A Place to Avoid if you are interested in banging the girls (see Q-Bar, Conrad and Spasso for Places to Avoid). The Pent has some good looking hostesses but if you arrive late most nights there are ZERO hostesses without customers and the desirable ones are already taken. Most nights, only the Coyote dancers are available, there are less than a dozen of these, many of them will already have customers, so there are typically less than 10 girls who are free to sit with you. The Pent’s severe girl shortage makes it practically impossible to interact with 95% of the girls unless you are willing to call the club (not the girl) and reserve a girl for the evening. This means paying her time fee for the whole night (over 2000 THB) including the hours before you arrive.
- The Girlpen is the area where the unchosen girls wait for customers. It is analogous to the bullpen in baseball where the reserve pitchers wait to be called into the game.
- Fresh Ideas About How to Really Really Have Fun in Thailand Part 2 - Gambling with the TG’s by BigBabyKenny.
- See the comments by Werewolf.
- See the sections on TG economics in Q-Bar, Spasso, etc.
- See Night Crawlers, Bottom Feeders, Break in Jobs and the Fresh Produce Market for a definition of “below the line.”
- See In Defense of Thai Women Part 1 for a definition of “hometown heroes.”
- See the recent “conversation” between myself and Bangkok Bad Boy on Werewolf’s blog for an interesting discussion of this issue.
How many have you banged?
View all comments by John Brown
I have done a few. I avoid all the PR or hostess girls. To me that is as easy as barfining. I only go coyote. I take the long route and I love the pent.
They have shortage of girls but I like how I can pop in, drink, an get home.
my favorites are forte and resort but now the forte and pent girls are talking to each so my days could be numbered.
I am batting zero at sky club but I focused on one girl but that will change in the future. I need to hit thonburi more and a few other places. the suk circuit of member clubs, apart from pent, is lame.
member clubs are a fun place to get away from the rest of the crap.
View all comments by smitty
Id bet my fishy foreskin that most of these coyotes are on hi5 and tagged available for hookups.
Been a few times to member clubs and wasnt bowled over. Usually because I got there late, or was pissed of my arse. Do they serve SPY wine at G-Clubs?
View all comments by Young Penfold
yp - u have never been to a good member club. u always go to late and u arrive drunk. meaning u will get none there and have never seen the good stuff. u missed a topless show at forte only to overpay to get into a lame RCA club. so let’s put it into perspective.
I would say many of the hotties are not on the networks because the don’t need it to meet people and many are schooling day and selling it night. their rolodex is doing okay.
View all comments by smitty
True. Now listen to your Uncle Penfold kiddies - Drinkings bad. How much is the membership at Forte?
View all comments by Young Penfold
Great post BBK. I’m still a G-Club virgin so this helps. Been to a few different one’s a couple of times and I’m a member of Pent but haven’t lined up with one yet. Details above are much appreciated and I will put them to use for sure.
For me the toughest part is having the patience and getting past the attitude. That’s where this info. helps. I was similarly educated about GoGo’s on my first visit here and it made all the difference. Understanding the motivation of the girls is the key.
View all comments by pmmp
Nice post BBK. I find member clubs to be great fun. Have had a lot of success at Neverland in Kaset Rd. The girls there are hot.
View all comments by nong jing jo
Ony 2 visitis to the Pent and I was hooked. Kenny is right, the slow way is the way (at least for me). The girls are attractive, attentive, educated and ambitous They are interested in the long haul and a phone book full of numbers of great looking and interesting woman is available. If you like LT these girls have got something to offer after you have shot your load. They can actually have an intelligent conversation with you.
View all comments by docsmith
Outstanding posting. Most points sound familiar from Singapore g-clubs, thought the scene is not as large as in Bkk. Timing is essential.
View all comments by Jabber
I agree.
Everyone should immediately flag down a cab and rush for the G clubs.
Don’t worry while your gone.
I’ll take care of the soi 4 ranch and soi 7 outpost.
View all comments by jack dawson
Interesting info BBK - werewolf is a big fan of G clubs and I’ve read many of his posts about them. I’ve never felt it worthwhile as I am rarely there for more than a month at a time (my whisky might go off) - but I really should give it a go at least once.
View all comments by doctorbond
@jabber: care to share some details about the SG scene? Would really appreciate some insider info. I can send you my private e-mail, or Smitty can perhaps fwd, or maybe you can post. Terima kasih.
View all comments by Julian
I say jabber needs to write up an overview of the SG member clubs scene. I had no idea they existed.
Jabber - get on it.
thx!
View all comments by smitty
The more I hear about G-Clubs, the less I want to go there. This post is no exception. But before I give my opinion I wait for part 2, hopefully with prices and scores (ie: ROI).
View all comments by Suk Psycho
docbond: “werewolf is a big fan of G clubs and I’ve read many of his posts about them.”
This isn’t strictly true. I have been to many G-clubs and didn’t like any of them EXCEPT the Pent.
For the record, I actually met BigBabyKenny last year because he wanted to go to a G-club, and since he knew I was a member he contacted me and asked me to take him. I’ve been to two other G-clubs with BBK since then, and he has continued his research without me.
Kenny and I often get around Bangkok together, with our last trip out together being a 2-night romp along Suthisan Road in Saphan Kwai and another night out in a Thai nightclub plus a karaoke club.
I always enjoy reading BBKs blogs in comparison to mine. We get along great when we go out together, but our written descriptions of our shared experiences are often very different.
I have realized that my infatuation with the Pent Club was largely an infatuation with a specific dancer there. Whenever I go there on a night that she is dancing I invariably have a good time. When I go there on a night when she isn’t there the occasion is a bit more ordinary.
The reason I like the pent is that it has the separate coyote club in the back.
I really dislike the other clubs where I have to live through a five piece live band doing sets of love ballads for 30 or 40 minutes between sets of coyote dancers.
Pent Club aside, I’d much rather be in Rawhide where the girls are naked and constantly onstage.
WW
View all comments by werewolf
Singapore G-Clubs
Top5 at Orchard Tower, 4th floor. The moment you walk in it might look like a disco rather than gentlemen’s club but as matter of fact it runs a so called VIP Club. A flat sum will get you a 16 bottles and access to the members area plus KTV boxes. Of course the girls will know you soon as a regular and the Members Club manager will introduce to whom ever you desire. Some girls are up to everything, some girls don’t. If you don’t know them be polite and ask in an indirect way. Management changed the former policies and the ladies are allowed to leave with you at any time as long as they report back at closing time (5 to 6 am). This place had to learn dealing with low seasons. There are no barfines! This would be illegal all over the city. It’s all up to the girl and you.
The girls are predominantly Thai, joined by Indonesian who work for Queens Club (one of the other bars of the owner of Top5) in the basement after closing around 1am. There are also some freelancer floating in and out, mostly Vietnamese. The mix is quite interesting to watch but compared to what you can see on YouTube about Pent or Sky it’s nowhere near. There are beautiful singers and dancers (Thai) on stage as part of the band. They might or might not be available, watched both sides of that story. The thing is that the Thai pole dancers are commuting back and forth from BKK G-Clubs but once in landed in the Lion City they double their prices. Standard is S$150-200 for ST (3000-4000 bath).
As a funny side note, rumour has it that it happened quite regularly that some Indonesian girls gave blow jobs within the seating area, basically in public space that is. Of course they tried to keep a low profile but as it turned out the whole place is controlled by CCTV with direct access by Singapore law enforcement. The club got legal trouble, was threatened to close and had to deny access to certain girl for a while.
Have a look at this pictures. Even if they are not up-to-date it give you an idea:
http://www.top5.com.sg/photo.htm
The Royal Sports Club (3rd floor, City Plaza, Geylang Road) is located on the top floor above a busy shopping centre. Smaller than the places at Orchard Tower but focussed to cater towards Chinese locals. The girls are usually Mainland Chinese with some Thai Coyote dancers on four poles, small stage, video screen and pool table. They also have half a dozen KTV rooms for private sessions. I never spent too much time there. Some of the Chinese girls are a bit scared by foreigners that don’t speak Cantonese or Mandarin.
Why flying to BKK if Singapore has a nightlife too? As a matter of fact, a weekend in Sukhumvit has more variety, less rules, more sights to see and its even cheaper, hotel and flight included.
View all comments by Jabber
I’ve never really understood the high-class hooker, in this case glorified bargirl, thing. OK, some whores are younger, fresher, nicer, better looking than others, but at the end of the day a whore is a whore. Why should whoring it up be a challenging long game? If I want to be challenged I’ll test my wits with a regular girl. I also don’t go to whores looking for sophisticated conversation. I guess it’s nice to have a bit of convo beyond the commonplace before and after you’ve shot your load, but I don’t want to fall in love with a whore’s mind, that would be dangerous. I certainly don’t visit Thailand to spend 500 baht - the best part of a tenner - on drinks for a stuck up working girl. To me, the g-club girl seems superfluous as a western lapdancing venue in a town full of whores, giks and mia-noi, or is it? If anyone out there will explain to me why we need g-clubs in the shining sexual spectrum that BBK calls the Thailand Girl Scene, I will be more than happy to listen.
View all comments by milo
It’s been about 11 months since I’ve been there, but if Top 5 is the best SIN has to offer, count me out. In deference to Jabber, I didn’t even know it was a g-club, although the membership offer is pretty upfront. I guess I never put 2 and 2 together. In any event, I thought the stunner-to-average ratio is just too low. Orchard Towers is a f-ing hoot, and not to missed by anyone reading this board who visits SIN, but I’ve consistently had better times and better quality girls from Ipanema and Naughty Girl. Better music too. FWIW, these bars have a combo of Phillipinas, Viets and PRC chicks, so if you’ve got an itch that only a TG can scratch, Top 5 might be the place for you. Just IMHO, of course.
View all comments by fender
If you plan to visit a certain G-Club more than once then don’t be as silly as I was and consider becoming a member.
I frequented a well-known BKK G-Club but never become a member. Last time I was there I realized that in total I spent over 70000 Baht there!
View all comments by Ato
I hate to say this sense the post was well received for a change. But all the tips and advice in the post are nothing that a socially well adjusted guy with some game,wouldn’t already know from actually having a social life back home before coming to Thailand.
Milo.. I agree completely. The high class hooker is laughable.
View all comments by yesman
jabber - thanks for the info but if top5 is the example than I would state that sing has no real member clubs. As I suspected. Go to resort or something to see what I mean.
in general I love these threads. It makes people less interested in the g clubs. Perfect. PLease no one go.
jd - talk everyone out of it for me. thx
View all comments by smitty
By the time I make it past the first floor at Orchard I am usually trashed so I don’t think I ever discovered Top 5. BRIX in SG is the motherlode for me. Although, last time I was at Naughty Girl there was a stunning Thai. Well stacked and really tall. And yes she was 100% girl
Was amazed, hope to find her again sometime.
View all comments by Julian
j or someone
it would be cool if someone wrote up an SG overview.
I don’t know BRIX or Naughty Girl.
Not been to SG in a while.
email here -
http://www.2thebigmango.com/reader-submissions/
View all comments by smitty
I had it in mind and Milo said it. This g-club thing is hard to understand.
Sounds like a huge waste of money, unless you end-up living a wonderful experience in bed after such a chase. Looking forward for part 2!
View all comments by Suk Psycho
SG has also an after hours (from 3 to 6 am) plenty of chicks. It is Living Room at Marriot Hotel (Orchard- Scotts), so you will find a mix of Thai, Viet, Indonesian, Filipinas, etc. Prices as Jabber mentions (S$ 150-200 ST), maybe LT if you get her just before 6 am. There are also non working girls too.
View all comments by messi
yesman - agreed.
But the issue to me is the quality, and availability of Thai girls. And the experience with Thai girls.
There are intangibles that Chinese, Philipino, and Vietnamese girls don’t deliver. Some call it the GFE.
John Brown - do you have to experience something personally to believe?
View all comments by pablo
Coming back to the G-Club topic: Funny to read some comments about it, also on previous posts about G-Clubs.
Yes, G-Clubs cost you more than a Go-go at Nana. Never go to a G-Club, they all suck.
I also advise against going to Go-go’s or beer bars. Sukh Soi 4 and Soi 7 serve as good examples of these strange business models. Even during happy happy-hour a beer for maybe 60 Baht?! Overprized. Short-time starts 1000 Baht? Rip-off. Get a six-pack (or two) at 7/11, drink it sitting on the side-walk and then get a hooker for (if you bargain well) 500 Baht from Nana Parking lot or a street-whore from Lower Sukh. Lot’s of money saved.
Wait.. aren’t there some Soi’s with crack-whores or glue-sniffers in Bangkok? Drink half a bottle of Thai whiskey first (cheaper than two six-packs at 7/11) and get a girl for 300 Baht? Damn, great value for minimum money.
But then… staying at home, laying on your bed and wanking yourself off is the cheapest way to come. Why bother engaging with any girl at all? Would be a waste of time and money from the start.
G-Clubs are a laugh. Please never ever visit one.
Me? I only once was in The Pent and plan to visit other G-Clubs during my next trip to BKK. But I am stupid, so what do I know?
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@Phoenix - I agree G-Clubs have a legitimate purposes for business nights out, a Thai-take on Geisha action, and all that whatnot, but if you’re going to put all that baht and effort into getting laid you may as well go to RCA and try your luck on a regular girl, without the taint of p4p. This is where the concept falls down for me and no doubt yesman, suk and all the other naysayers. I eagerly await part II…
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Milo, agreed. But fo me a G-CLub is first for the fun and second for the pull. I know BBK wrote mainly about how to pull, but the entertainment value is very important for me too. I also plan to visit RCA next time. Have never been there. Do you have any suggestions for particular clubs/bars to go on RCA?
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Milo and Yesman,
Thailand, with a little bit of money, a little bit of knowledge, and a desire for adventure lets you do and experience things that you wouldn’t be able to do in The World.
Before coming to Thailand I preferred banging girls with a certain physical characteristics—slender and willowy. At one point, I wondered what banging the thicker more athletic but not fat girls, e.g. the Serena Williams types, was like. I experimented with a bunch of thicker more athletic girls, and I found that banging thick and thin girls was different but both were damned good.
Before coming to Thailand I preferred banging girls with “cute” personalities—the giggly girls with pony tails and braces. At one point I wondered if banging the wild and crazy dirty girls was more fun. I experimented and banged a bunch of wild crazy tattoo covered aggressive dirty girls (many probably on Yabaa) and, lo and behold, I found that banging the wild and crazy dirty girls can be a great ride.
In Thailand, with a little bit of money, a little bit of knowledge, and desire for adventure, I discovered and enjoy a wider world of banging that I probably never would have found and enjoyed back in The World.
There are many guys who stay inside the farang GoGo and FL girl scene and bang girls within narrow and physical and mental boundaries and within certain social scenarios, i.e. the ST/LT framework prevalent within the farang GoGo girl scene. They are happy there and don’t feel the need to try anything different.
But The Thailand Girl Scene has a lot more to offer to those willing to move off the reservation and search for it.
Many guys in The World never find themselves in the situation where a really beautiful, sexually experienced, fun, intelligent girl makes a committed determined effort to bang them—and makes sure that when they do bang them they are really really really really satisfied so that they will want to come back for more. Many guys in The World never find themselves in the situation where the same really beautiful, sexually experienced, fun, intelligent girl makes a committed determined effort to pleasure and please them outside the bedroom so they will want to be with her on a regular basis. Few guys in The World find themselves in the situation where several really beautiful, sexually experienced, fun, intelligent girls are making the committed determined effort simultaneously.
In The World, most of us don’t have a place where we have a crew of young, hot, sexy girls stashed that we can drop in on any night of the week. Girls that are genuinely happy to see us, will get drunk for us, party with us, try to torque us up, might go home with us, and want to do it again and again in the future.
But most of us wouldn’t mind experiencing this situation just for shits and giggles.
The point of G-Clubs and G-Girls is that they are not the ST/LT girls of the farang GoGo, Bierbar, and FL scene.
The point of G-Clubs and G-girls is that the interaction between you and the girl is different than the typical farang GoGo, Bierbar, Fl fare.
Maybe you will like it, maybe you won’t. Maybe the money spent would be just as well spent flushed down the crapper. Maybe the money spent will be the best bargain you’ve ever found. Maybe you would rather just stay within the confines or the safe and known. Why mess with success?
The point of G-Clubs and G-Girls is wouldn’t it be fun to check it out and see what gives?
BigBabyKenny
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@ Phoenix: This is the point: where is the fun? Maybe this is what is missing in this post. Where is the fun in G-clubs versus gogo bars or anything else? It is all about what to do, what not, what to pay, what not… Don’t see the fun here…
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SukPsycho: Here’s a blog & photo written after I went to Pent Club with BigBabyKenny (he gets mentioned in the final paragraph): http://bargirlsrpeople2.wordpress.com/2008/01/18/why-i-became-a-member-at-the-pent-club/
Here’s a blog about a night of fun that includes plenty of photos of fun with the Pent Club girls. Don’t be fooled by BBK’s writing style… the G-clubs can be great fun!
http://bargirlsrpeople2.wordpress.com/2008/03/14/thursday-night-fun/
I have done the math and I figure with a membership, a typical three hour visit to the Pent costs me in the neighborhood of 1,500 baht. Usually plenty of fun, good atmosphere and service for probably the same or less than I’d spend at a go go bar, but without the certainty of getting laid at the end.
I usually fix this by going to Nana and picking up a girl at the end of the night of fun.
That said, I did get laid by a sexy Pent Club girl once… just not the one I was chasing.
I suspect that 40 years from now the argument over G-clubs will still be going on at this blogsite, with no opinions ever changing. Smitty’s right. They have a place in the array of entertainment options available in Bangkok. Some people will like them and some won’t. I figure that for most people it’s probably worth at least one look to find out.
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werewolf: “have done the math and I figure with a membership, a typical three hour visit to the Pent costs me in the neighborhood of 1,500 baht.”
This is what I meant: I do not have any membership and my three hours cost more than 4000Baht!
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@Smitty: I’ll be back in SG next month and I will be more than happy to oblige with a comprehensive review. BRIX is the hotel bar of Grand Hyatt SG. The place is not unlike Spasso in layout and feel, only it has more girls. And yes, there are no innocents there. Last time I was there the ratio of girls to punters was at least 3 to 1. The girls were mostly Indonesian and Filipina, although there were quite a few Thai and Vietnamese too. As far as rates, SG$200 LT was more than acceptable and there probably is room for haggling down. Quite a few good looking girls there.
Naughty Girl is in the Orchard Towers, when I was there a month ago or so it had mostly Thai girls in the crowd. They had a bizarre traditional Vietnamese dance show type of thing going on. I did not quite catch the story because my eyes were on a couple of leggy Thais dancing on the bar in front of me. Few guys and enough girls, quite good looking. I was quite wasted at the time so I don’t remember drink prices.
I don’t think Thais abroad are nearly as likely to provide GFE as those in the motherland. In my experience in both SG and HK they expect more and provide less, and I have had better luck with Vietnamese. Actually I had one Thai girl even tell me, “in BKK my rate x, in SG 3 * x because more expensive. And in BKK we can free on weekends ka.” D’oh.
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j - so u mean they are free for the banging on the weekends since they make the cash during the week? he he
I always loved meeting a girl in hk that I knew from bkk. the bidding game would begin and I knew I would pay her more than in bkk, which was cool, but nothing like she wanted. the best thing would be towards the end of the night when they did not get pulled and they would assume I was the fallback. Which I was - but at that hour at the bkk rates. fun stuff.
a write up would be great! thx
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Yeah. We can bang as friends on weekends. But during the week she is in work mode so I’m a customer then. I haven’t taken her up on that but just to hear her come up with this cracked me up.
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j - there is a post in there somewhere. the whole idea of the working versus non working mindset. the idea that they are on the clock sometimes but a day later they are not. I have found in a few cases the sex and attitude to be different as well. the other funny thing is when u break up with a girl and she goes back to working the dynamic of her suddenly wanting money for banging. all great stuff indeed. someone needs to get writing.
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One thing I effing adore about O.T. and SIN is that everyplace stays open until what, 5? 6? 7? Latest I’ve ever managed to stay up before pulling or crashing is about 4:30, so I have no idea.
I’ve done a couple of laps in Brix, but never pulled from there. It’s so underlit, I’ve always been worried about my 8/10 turning into a 3/10 before we even get to my room. Same reason I’m scared of Boss or Spice or wherever. It’s like “hey, nice legs, nice ass, but could she maybe be 50 y.o.?” (I think this is why I still like the gogos, despite all the issues and attitude and all. At least the goods are on display for you. Want a nice rack with no sag? Want no cheese with your ass? The only things making a gogo girl’s body look better than it actually is are my beer goggles. Get a FL and you run the risk of mushy boobies. I hate mushy boobies! I don’t come to BKK for mushy boobies!)
After reading this post and the comments, I was thinking of hitting a g-club just to see if it’s my thing. Kinda like eating a durian, I guess. I only get to town a few times a year though, so a membership period longer than 1 year would be nice. I know somewhere someone mentioned that some g-clubs have memberships longer than 1 year. Could someone repost that info? Thanks!
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Fender,
My Pent membership is for 2 years.
The next time you’re in Bkk, ask pmmp who can take visitors to the Pent.
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“(I think this is why I still like the gogos, despite all the issues and attitude and all. At least the goods are on display for you. Want a nice rack with no sag? Want no cheese with your ass? The only things making a gogo girl’s body look better than it actually is are my beer goggles. Get a FL and you run the risk of mushy boobies. I hate mushy boobies! I don’t come to BKK for mushy boobies!)”
I never wrote it this way, but I feel the same way. Good concise summary.
Hope you guys are enjoying the party. :p
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Pablo: thanks for the info.
BTW: “The next time you’re in Bkk, ask pmmp who can take visitors to the Pent.”
Do you mean “Hey pmmp, do you know anyone who can take visitors to the Pent?” Or “Hey pmmp, will you take me to the Pent?” I’m in town now so if it’s the latter, pmmp, you get bro of the year with gold stars if you’d lead a complete stranger on a fact-finding expedition to the Pent (maybe we met last night at the Big Mango party but I don’t know who the online players are in real life (HAD A BALL; CONGRATS GUYS, AND BEST OF LUCK!!)). Plus, for all I know I could have the personality of a sack of hair and the only reason anyone hangs out with me is b/c I pay or owe them money.
WW: thanks dude. Good concise summaries are why I’m a lawyer and not a real human being. **sigh**
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Well then there is this thing. In Indonesia and same in Thailand. You bang a working girl twice, have lunch somewhere, and next thing is, let’s go to my tambon/kampung. To meet the family I suppose? It’s happened to me two or three times… in the evening she is asking for money, then we meet outside the premises and it’s “let’s meet the family” time. I may do that sometime just to see what the heck is it all about. How does one deal with that? “Yes ma’am, me and 257 other guys are intimately close with your daughter, nice to meet you.”
@fender: Brix is not so dark that you cannot make out who you are talking to. You can go to the smoking room and examine the goods. I usually make the rounds, walk around it for 10-20 minutes to see who’s there then sit at the bar and usually someone will catch your eye, or more likely you will catch theirs. Never been disappointed. Then also you can pick up various randoms (Filipinas around …heck. I forget the name, an Irish pub with many hostess bars around it) on the street. Many options.
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j - not sure how it is in indo but my guess is that it is similar to thailand. unless your are serious about the girl, planning to get married or live together - then no reason to meet the family at all. this is just a sign to them that you are the new meal ticket. hence why girls do it.
my advice - avoid it like the mumps.
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fender: we’ve come along way since your July 5th comment. The Pent before you leave for sure. Impressive Noon to 3:30am run at the Mango yesterday with just a shower break in the middle. Good stuff. Congrats on Nadal. Quote of the night at 3:30am this morning from OnNutt’s “I’m so happy an Englishman finally won Wimbledon after 50+ years”. We were all pretty spent.
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@smitty: yeah. I was just mentioning the whole paradox: screw for money during the week, and for free on weekends; screw for hard cash first, then meet the uncles for some good family vibes later. One can forget what role one plays at times!
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The subject is upscale and so is this post. It’s refreshing to read such an informative, structured and superlative guide to G-clubs. There’s so much garbage to sort thru sometimes to get pertinent and trustworthy information.
Clearly still alot of situationally specific issues TBD but Thank you BBK for an outstanding piece….much appreciated and I will be putting to use when I make my trip next month.
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Pardon my apparent ignorance, but I have a very different view to the strategies behind TRYING (note the pessimism) to score with a G-Club girl.
First of all, the steps listed above are not fool-proof. More likely than not you’ll fail at the first hurdle if the guide is anything to go by - G-Club girls don’t usually give out numbers freely. Many of them do, sure, but the normal ones are there to earn a living and take it as professionally as you do the P4P scene. They know you’re there to bed them, so they strut carefully. If you’re a farang your chances are even slimmer, because (at the risk of sounding racist) the average pretty Thai woman invariably feel more at ease with fellow counterparts (ie, young, sanuk Asians) than a middle-aged, balding Caucasian. Believe me, they laugh behind your backs as much as we do theirs.
Secondly, some myths need to be dispelled regarding how G-Club girls approach the topic of handling a repeat customer for long-term benefit. Being rich is a definite advantage, but they’ve seen it all before. They earn enough (especially the hostesses) to be in a position of choice. In other words, if they feel uncomfortable with you or if you piss them off too much by being too horny upfront, they have every right to request their mamasan to change customers or simply refuse to end the “clock”, even if you’ve been requesting the same girl the past twenty visits. You don’t have them by the balls - it’s the other way around. They’ll hit their quotas with or without you, because most G-Clubs work on a tiered scheme where they get an extra 5000 baht for the next tier of 50 drinks. If they don’t hit the required tier for the month but are close, they will simply fork out from their own pocket to top it up - it makes economic sense for them to buy themselves into the next available tier. They don’t have to let you touch their tits to squeeze another vodka shot out of you.
Third, and perhaps more importantly, the girls talk amongst themselves. A lot. If you get into the habit of collecting numbers, very soon the entire hostess brigade will know what you’re up to, so on a practical level texting all of them before you arrive is nigh-on insane. Your reputation will plummet and with it your chances of landing a decent pussy. If you want to go out with a girl after the club closes, impress her during your stay. Texting her beforehand reeks of desperation and she’s likely to say no. Girls act on impulse - if she’s sufficiently drunk and having a great time with you in the club, she’ll invariably want to hang out with you more, so wait till the time is right then pop the question just before the lights come on. Not rocket science, is it?
My point is this: treat these girls as you would the regular ones you are likely to meet in the streets and you’ll have a better chance. They’re intelligent, trained to fend of men and are as apt in the sexual politics game as you are, if not more. Kudos to the many who have succeeded in either the Fast or Slow Way of doing things, but tackling G-Club girls is no different from trying to hook up with the hot stranger sitting opposite you in a bar - you need to be physically attractive, charismatic, humorous, the ability to blow a load of money in a single night, and most importantly, luck.
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@justin, that’s a well written sobering post - i wanted to write something similar but lack the motivation and clarity of thought.
it seems getting numbers is fairly easy at g clubs regardless of your age, weight and race, and not really an indication that she is at all into you. i don’t know why that is - perhaps they don’t want you to “lose face” by saying no or more likely it’s just part of serving the customer? Thai guys will just give the girl their phone without saying a word and she will dutifully type in her name and number - never had the guts to try that approach.
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that is good info and true
I do give them my phone and they bang in their number and I do the same with mine. I have gotten good and adding them to their contact list with my thai name. My new rule is I dont call them and the few that I have a good thing going with have always called me.
I am on the slow train - just picking a few in each spot and then focusing my efforts. THey are fun girls and I am enjoying the ride a ton.
Great info.
Justin would be call if u expanded this a bit and we can use it as a post.
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Don’t forget she has (at least) 2 phones.
One number for work.
The other for her real friends.
Getting the 2nd might be a challenge, but getting the 1st certainly isn’t - and it’s as advantageous for her as it is for you. Think never-ending avalanche of SMSs urging you to visit the club so that you can spend money on her.
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I personally know a few decent G-Club girls (and their sisters) who pride themselves in not giving out their personal numbers freely. I’m inclined to believe them. Those with 2 phones are experienced players of the scene and you’re better off pursuing the others (newer and more inexperienced ones) for pussy, because you’re pitting yourself against the most battle-hardened ones of the lot.
I know it’s Thailand and anything is possible, but the truth is that hot Thai girls follow the same rules as those you find elsewhere - they’d rather sleep with hot young men than with us (I’m assuming most of us don’t fall into the under-25, Asian, lean and taut, brooding good looks and a-fortune-to-spare category). There are more handsome Thai men out there than you think, and many, many G-Club girls have serious boyfriends maintaining stable relationships outside of work. Surprise - they give their girlfriends their warmest blessings to work in G-Clubs. I know of 2 G-Club girls whose boyfriends’ occupations include that of a tattoo artist and a lead vocalist of a rock band. True story.
Invariably, some will get lucky with a hot G-Club girl willing to sleep with you, but your chances will be the same as hitting a regular bar trying to score a one-night stand. Officially, you only pay a G-Club hostess for her time and nothing else. She is not obligated to do anything else with you (other than the occasional holding of hands and hugging), but anything outside of the normal realms of physical activity and it’s anyone’s game. I’ve almost never seen hot girls in G-Clubs volunteering to french-kiss or grope horny, ugly or drunk Caucasians at the crotch, but maybe it’s only because I haven’t been to enough to fully judge.
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Justin,
I agree with one general tenor of your comments—that G-Girls are free to do what they want. They are not GoGo girls who have to bang anyone who is willing to barfine them or the FL TG’s who hang out in Nana Parking lot and the Biergarten and make a living on volume—one ST/1500THB at a time from multiple men.Personally this is a plus not a minus to G-Girling.
That being said, what distinguishes Thai G-Girls from the same girls in The World is that the bar is set a lot lower and what the G-Girls value is a lot different than what the same girls in The World value.
You can read all the other posts that I have written but what it boils down to is that:
1)TG’s have proscribed opportunities compared to girls in The World. You are a young and beautiful TG. In The World you could expect to marry or boyfriend into a higher social and economic strata. Because of the class system in Thailand, TG’s can’t do that.
2)You are a young, beautiful, and intelligent TG. In The World, you could go to school become a lawyer, doctor, or business executive and bootstrap yourself into a higher social and economic strata. Thai culture and Thai poverty means TG’s can’t do that—Chulangokorn and
Thamassat are not filled with the exceptionally bright ambitious upwardly mobile genius sons and daughters of poor Issan banana farmers. They are filled with sons and daughters of the already rich and privileged on their way to taking their hereditary reserved places in the upper strata of Thai society.
Foreign men offer an opportunity that is NOT available to these girls among the general Thai population—the opportunity to be with a nice relatively affluent guy who views them within a much more humane and for them more pleasant framework than Thai guys and who offers the opportunity for a standard of living and life not available to them in Thai society.
Where I disagree is your thesis that you have to be young good looking and rich to get anywhere with G-Girls.
Maybe in The World you have to be young, good looking, and rich to have a chance with girls equivalent to Thai G-Girls but in Thailand, because of the proscribed opportunities available to women, you only have to be a decent human being with an average income by the standards of The World to be in the thick of things.
You can be 10-35 years older and average looking but if you are a decent guy, who dresses acceptably, with a modest income by The World’s standards, you will frequently be the standout candidate, both economically and spiritually, on the potential sponsor/boyfriend/Gik list for most G-Girls.
What you can’t be is one of the big fat loud dirty rude and crude, no manners, euro or white trash slobs that infest Nana and Soi Cowboy. For cultural reasons, normal Thai girls just don’t cotton to these guys.
BigBabyKenny
P.S. perversely enough, SMS’ing or calling multiple girls before you visit to see which are available after work sometimes sends out the right signal—that you are interested in pursuing some type of outside the club relationship. When this information gets shared rather than killing the action, it starts a competitive situation where one girl tries to scoop the other girls.
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When I find myself agreeing with BBK’s comments as well, I realise that the both of us might well be guilty of generalisation. The G-Club scene is a massive one, and there must be close to tens of thousands of G-Club girls working the circuit. I’m sure both types of girls will fit neatly into either mine or BBK’s categories of descriptives, although I suspect most will fall somewhere in between.
I was romantically involved with a G-Club girl for close to a year and established intimate relationships with her network of colleagues, relatives and friends within this time. All I have to offer are snippets of what I believe to be true based on personal experiences. If all of you must know, I’m 28 years old, would like to consider myself as fairly decent on the desirability scale (even in The World), and Asian (born in Australia but raised in Singapore). Maybe it’s just me, but I’ve never seen G-Club girls in the exact same light farangs have - most, if not all, of them treat it like a job with the occasional occupational hazard (getting drunk, getting molested, indecent proposals). They wake up the next morning refreshed and ready to tackle another difficult day, most of the time simply trying to forget what happened the night before. They don’t set out to the club every night praying to “fish a big one”. They’re fairly self-sufficient and acknowledge the fact that it’s not an easy job, but they get paid a lot for it (on the average, G-Club hostesses fetch as much as 45,000 to 55,000 baht a month, ironic considering there’s a good chance they’re out-earning what new farang English teachers get when they first arrive in the Big Mango themselves). My ex-girlfriend took pride in decking herself up with the latest in fashion - Miu Miu handbags, Calvin Klein watches (non-copy, might I add), Chanel lip-gloss and the like, and I’ve seen her colleagues zip around in no less than Mazda 6s and VW Beatles (now how many of those have you seen around the city?). Maybe I was just unfortunate to end up mixing with the most hi-so of the lot, but that has pretty much been my experience the past year. Some of them have got farang boyfriends whom they first met in the club as customers, sure, but while in the agogo circuit when they almost parade you around like a prize, in G-Club land it’s considered “less desirable”, simply because (if you’re able to follow this warped sense of logic) it sort of relegates themselves to the agogo level of the night scene in the eyes of their friends. Decent Thai girls bring home decent Thai men. A G-Club girl friend of mine hesitated for half a year to bring her American boyfriend back to see her parents (he’s the best person I know, big heart and thoroughly serious about her) because it’s considered almost obscene (”It’s like telling my mother I sold my body for you”, she used to say to him) to have a farang by your side as a significant-other. I’m sorry to have to say it and I sincerely hope I’m not generalising, but to the middle-to upper-income earners in the city, farangs do not have a good reputation.
The key is not to see G-Club girls as high-class Issan-type hookers; they’re modern city dwellers who simply chose to work in a job that pays a shitload of money without them having to sell their bodies. BKK is right - they’re free to choose what they want to do, and some of them will invariably be a lot “looser” in their values, but there are a lot of others who take the other route too.
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justin - I think your are spot on but you generalize when you say that you have to be a certain age, looks and so on to get these girls.
I find you have to dress stylishly - this does not mean expensive or conservative. You see rich thai guys cruise into these places all the time in their shorts. Just show some style.
Bullshit on the age thing. I am 36 and I am doing well with a few 20 somethings in the clubs. Not the hookers either. The normal girls.
I think it is because I can speak Thai, I know how to be respectful and I make them laugh. They have even told me I am not their target find but that I am interesting.
This is your best comment:
The key is not to see G-Club girls as high-class Issan-type hookers; they’re modern city dwellers who simply chose to work in a job that pays a shitload of money without them having to sell their bodies.
And is is so true and why I like chasing these girls.
Great stuff. I may just roll all of your comments into a post.
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Justin is right about the middle to upper income earners and families (with exceptions of course). No matter what you do, where you come from or how polite and respectful you are the fact that you are not Thai takes you out of the game immediately. I know from experience.
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bkk22 - correct but that does not mean you won’t meet them and have fun with them. they just may