editor’s note: Sure it is newbie stuff but a tad bit bizarre and I think of it as a public service message since I am sure John is still trolling Khao San road.
After all the recent encouragement being directed to first posters, I guess it seems like an apt time to join the party. So here goes. I visited NEP for the first time ever around 8 years ago and was thoroughly freaked out by what happened. So this is an account of that visit. It’s partly just a story I think you may find interesting, but I’m also very curious to know if anyone has heard of anything similar happening and what you will make of it? I guess it’s also something of a precautionary tale…
At the time I was working in Farangland, but had a friend who’d been working in Bangkok for a couple of years. Let’s call him John. So anyway, when I knew I’d be in town en route to Cambodia and then Laos , we arranged to hook up. And after a few fairly circuitous enquiries on his part, a trip to the entertainment zone was duly offered. All very normal you might think, except John is gay. Not that this was a problem, we were friends after all and in fact, at the time I thought it’d put an interesting twist on the adventure. In hindsight, I guess I should have maybe wondered why he’d know his way around a place like that, but…..
I can’t remember the name of any of the bars we visited and I can’t honestly say that this first visit was one I was particularly enjoying that much; at least not in the way I’ve since come to embrace wholeheartedly. It was good to share a few beers and there was some great lookers on display, but it was all just a bit, well… weird!
John is pretty sharp and insightful and his dry observations on the TGs and especially the punters (can you believe what he’s wearing…?!) seemed witty enough, but for most of the time it felt more like a sociology seminar than anything remotely resembling fun. But after a few beers, John started opening up about his life in Bangkok and for a while I was happy to listen. He was not a happy bunny. Sure, the work was ok and the food was great, but he didn’t find Asian men attractive and the whole katoey scene - well it just wasn’t him AT ALL. No, what floated his particular boat was farangs, especially young, slightly scruffy backpacker types. And more than anything, it seemed that what really turned him on, was pulling men who hadn’t yet experienced the joys of a same sex relationship.
So, and I guess some of you have probably got it already, what gradually unravelled was his strategy, which was basically to hang around the backpacker areas, get talking to the young hunks as the resident old hand and after a while, offer the newbie tour to NEP. And if he got lucky, at some point he’d eventually end up in a hotel room with a couple of guys and a couple of girls, usually, as far as I could tell, just sitting and watching. It was also made pretty clear that my participation in this particular fantasy – even with him in a purely spectator role would be most welcome. Needless to say, my profound and sincere lack of enthusiasm was duly communicated.
What to say? I guess I should ‘kind of’ appreciate that he was up-front with me and so unlike most other unsuspecting blokes, at least I was allowed the option of telling him to politely f*** off. But spying on unsuspecting straight men getting down on TGs is clearly highly dishonest, frankly creepy and would also be potentially very dangerous if they began to suspect what was going on. More than that, I still find it quite staggering the amount of work he’d be prepared to put into spinning out and play acting this little charade: visiting different bars, building trust, egging the guys on, buying yet another round of drinks, etc. – all for probably very little return. Anyway, fortunately I wasn’t scarred for life and a couple of years later began working in the Philippines , where I was reintroduced to the bar scene under much happier circumstances. But that’s maybe a story for another time…
That was most certainly NOT what I was suspecting! But I can see it got posted. Something a little different…
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g - I first started reading it and I was like - this newbie drivel will get killed but then it got weird and interesting.
plus - trying to look out for “young” penfold
View all comments by smitty
wow, i thought my first time venturing to a naughty boy area was bad. were you worried that the guy might have slipped you a micky then tried to make you his latest co-star?
then again, i know straight guys that go to the gay soi in silom for free drinks then leave when properly lubricated (drunk, not the other kind of lubed).
and that beats my strange first time in cowboy. this lone mexican roman catholic newbie sitting in long gun on xmas eve with a jewish guy. all i could think about was the vast quantity of hail mary’s one would have to do to clear up something like that with jeebus. well, that and which girl i wanted to continue my sins with since i might as well keep going since theres no way in hell my priest will forgive me. unless i take him to dj station or something.
View all comments by UnCochinoWetback
@ kindov - thanks for the warning - mind you I’m not normally into being in the presence of other men while the deed is done - Star of Light being a very occasional exception. Maybe your friend could get some vicarious thrills there although ordering a pink gin at the bar might be a giveaway…
Interesting to see how mongers with different agendas operate
View all comments by doctorbond
i seriously hope “john” is not still trawling khao san rd after all these years… that story is like reading about mr cargo pants meets the anti-christ. im sure there are plenty of nice gay thai boys (not katoey) he could satisfy his desires with eg in lower patpong, around the malaysia hotel area. etc. please bring back dr bond or even Tosh.. anything but this warped shite…
View all comments by Mr Carpet
Hmmmm. Wonder why this was posted. I don’t get it.
View all comments by Jeff
“mr cargo pants meets the anti-christ”
555
View all comments by doctorbond
Rule number 1: never accept candies from strangers. This is true also in NEP!
View all comments by Suk Psycho
Good little read this.
But I couldn’t help thinking that in the ‘creepy gay voyeur’ stakes this John guy is hardly putting himself at the sharp end, spying on sandal-wearing softies fumbling with Lek and Nok.
Maybe he should move to Pattaya and try his ruse on a gang of Royal Marines and their toothless, Soi 6 barfines. The marines,with their combat-level powers of perception would, quite blatantly, catch him in the act, before buggering him violently - Greek and Abu Ghraib style - beating shit out of him, and stealing his prized collection of miniature silver hairbrushes. This is not something I have thought about before honest.
View all comments by Milo
If hes after a bit of bent white meat surely iy’d be easier and far less hassle to hit bed supperclub which if rife with beret wearing shit stabbers, or lower silom where a lot of white fags flog there cocks.
Alternateively smitty can forward him my address and mobile phone number
The few occassions ive bagged white chicks in BKK have been on the gay road incidentally. And they WERE girls. honest. Pants Elk told me
View all comments by Young Penfold
“I guess I should ‘kind of’ appreciate that he was up-front with me”
Better than Up-back.
View all comments by Young Royal
he’s probably doing bangkok a big service considering a great deal of people arent’ too fond of backpackers. How can you have the most thorough experience of bangkok if you are the khao san type. You’ve seen the islands, gotten those nasty braids, bought some fishermen pants and a beerlao shit up near the mekhong. What else is needed other than the unexpected assrape?? It may also clear the way for those guys that are into Scandinavian backpackers by taking out some of the competition. While you guys are preying on the drunk swedish chicks, those guys are doing the crying game shower or icing their rumps.
I bet his victims have pretty unique stories to tell their grandkids about the time they walked funny for a few days in bangkok. And how mixed up do you have to be to go to NANA looking for girls and end up getting stuffed? I’ve had crazy experiences but have never come close to doing playing Piazza New York Catcher with another dude unless you count this one time in KL.
View all comments by UnCochinoWetback
“playing Piazza New York Catcher”? When do we get some new pics of the Mango and more importantly the girls? Don’t hold out gents.
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On the subject of Young Penfold - can I suggest the Big Mango making him their Official Mascot? I see wonderful marketing opportunities, and you could get him a high-chair at the bar so people could ruffle his hair for luck and buy him a beer when he’s old enough.
View all comments by Pants Elk
un - that dude will need to seriously repent.
dr - i can’r even handle the SOL so some strange dude perving on my starfish while I bang a girl is weird.
carpet - u gotta love the warped stuff.
jeff - it is too weird not to post. deal.
milo - ouch.
yp - I was trying to protect u by posting this.
un -I would guess the guy never gets laid like this but just gets to watch but I could be wrong.
burger - we will try to do some pics soon. there are some pics from the party coming. We are not really doing a girl gallery since we are not flogging the girls but we will try to do some staff shots for those that are willing. thx
View all comments by smitty
BurgerDude- Piazza New York Catcher refers to the Major League baseball player Mike Piazza. He provided one of the most hilarious moments in sports when he called a press conference for the sole purpose of declaring heterosexualness and his hatred for all sex that involves more than one cock and zero vaginas. Scottish group Belle and Sebastian wrote a song about him on the catastrophe album.
I thought he was gay long before he went to New York. He was a homo when he played for the LA Dodgers.But i’m probably just biased since i root for the Giants.
View all comments by UnCochinoWetback
Pants Elk - perhaps you can ruffle my pubic hairs when im old enough and grow some?
View all comments by Young Penfold
You’ll have to wait until he’s finished parting mine.
View all comments by Young Penfold's Mum
Thats not funny
My mom fell out of a tree when she was young and all her hair fell out. Much like Duncan Goodhew.
Not a happy homelife. Thanks for the memory
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That’s not funny
I once had sex with Duncan Goodhew
View all comments by Young Penfold's Aunt
YPA - Are you referring to PMMP as Duncan Goodhew?
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He was a gentleman and a scholar and gave me nice shiny beads….
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Oh look - doctorbond’s got the same avatar as be - bastard - I hope he dies
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@ Kindofblue
back on topic…..
Your story was well written and interesting - hope you weren’t fazed by the experience of writing the blog and watching the feedback.
- everything you contribute means one less blog from the likes of Big Baby Kenny, Tosh or me !
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doctorbond
Firstly, thanks - your comments are much appreciated
After hitting the ’send’ button I was a tad apprehensive about how my my offering to the altar of bigmango would be received - and I almost put off logging on to see the results. I’m very aware the story was a bit bizarre and therefore any playback might be unpredictable. But actually what I didn’t say was that it wasn’t just my first time in NEP, but my first visit ever to a go go and it somehow seemed appropriate that my newbie post was about my newbie experience??
For the record, I’m not in contact with John, but I don’t think he’s still around. I’ve been visiting Bangkok regularly for about 5 years and based there for nearly a year and I certainly haven’t seen him.
Anyway, that’s all I have in the box marked wierd. So no bizarre stuff from now on. And now off to explore the explore the delights of the Big Durian…
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Kindofblue: If you’re looking for strange experiences in the Big Durian check out the Estanza Cruz Club. Very weird joint.
AUK: Google Image search on Duncan…Go England!
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