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		<title>By: Combover</title>
		<link>http://www.2thebigmango.com/reader-submissions/2007/08/06/the-red-sash-by-jack/#comment-140327</link>
		<dc:creator>Combover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 02:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I finally made it, and the sequence of events was generally pretty much as described, though the line up of girls was less than outstanding. A few were quite, but a lot of chubbies. Only one or two eights, and they were hiding away from the foreign devil behind the fat girls.

I finally chose a pretty, breasty girl who was a little thick around the middle. Tongue massage was great. Hated the on-all-fours part. I felt leg an old dog with his knackers hanging down being given a suppository. I wasn't offered the red sash, and didn't know how to ask for it, so just had the standard BJ &#38; shag (which I had to ask for). About ten minutes from the end of the session, I was getting a wind down massage and spotted the red sash poking out of her bag, at which pointed she happily demonstrated the art. Very good, but my time was up. Oh, and the girl was a real spitter, breaking off during sex to hawk up in the bin.

Also, they skipped The Lounge part, which meant no drinks, noodles, cigarettes and Olympics on the TV.

Prices were as described. RMB750 plus 70 for the back rub and 20 for the locker room boy. There is a sign in the lift lobby which gives all pricing clearly in English.

So overall, 5/10, but with potential for much higher given an evening with a better selection of girls and better understanding of how the place works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I finally made it, and the sequence of events was generally pretty much as described, though the line up of girls was less than outstanding. A few were quite, but a lot of chubbies. Only one or two eights, and they were hiding away from the foreign devil behind the fat girls.</p>
<p>I finally chose a pretty, breasty girl who was a little thick around the middle. Tongue massage was great. Hated the on-all-fours part. I felt leg an old dog with his knackers hanging down being given a suppository. I wasn&#8217;t offered the red sash, and didn&#8217;t know how to ask for it, so just had the standard BJ &amp; shag (which I had to ask for). About ten minutes from the end of the session, I was getting a wind down massage and spotted the red sash poking out of her bag, at which pointed she happily demonstrated the art. Very good, but my time was up. Oh, and the girl was a real spitter, breaking off during sex to hawk up in the bin.</p>
<p>Also, they skipped The Lounge part, which meant no drinks, noodles, cigarettes and Olympics on the TV.</p>
<p>Prices were as described. RMB750 plus 70 for the back rub and 20 for the locker room boy. There is a sign in the lift lobby which gives all pricing clearly in English.</p>
<p>So overall, 5/10, but with potential for much higher given an evening with a better selection of girls and better understanding of how the place works.<br /> <a href="http://www.2thebigmango.com/viewcomments/3280461592" rel="nofollow">View all comments by Combover</a></p>
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		<title>By: A Celebration of Mediocrity at The FARANG Speaks 2 Much</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Celebration of Mediocrity at The FARANG Speaks 2 Much</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a better, and perhaps more eloquent idea of what I&#8217;m talking about, take a look at this account of a visit to Shanghai&#8217;s Red Rope Lounge on the Mango Blog: Then, I’m not gonna diagram it, but you will have to imagine how a naked [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a better, and perhaps more eloquent idea of what I&#8217;m talking about, take a look at this account of a visit to Shanghai&#8217;s Red Rope Lounge on the Mango Blog: Then, I’m not gonna diagram it, but you will have to imagine how a naked [...]<br /> <a href="http://www.2thebigmango.com/viewcomments/0" rel="nofollow">View all comments by A Celebration of Mediocrity at The FARANG Speaks 2 Much</a></p>
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		<title>By: Combover</title>
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		<dc:creator>Combover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 03:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would say RMB900 is more than fair. It's not even that expensive for Shanghai, given that there's significant minority of people there with way more money than most of us can ever dream about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would say RMB900 is more than fair. It&#8217;s not even that expensive for Shanghai, given that there&#8217;s significant minority of people there with way more money than most of us can ever dream about.<br /> <a href="http://www.2thebigmango.com/viewcomments/3280461592" rel="nofollow">View all comments by Combover</a></p>
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		<title>By: No name this time</title>
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		<dc:creator>No name this time</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 01:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, heading to Shanghai hotel tonight! Thanks for Werewolfs Lair I found this. Although, I would love to hear from other similar places.

How I say "red sash" in Chinese when I want to see this thing?

I speak no Chinese except basic greeting. I hope to get serviced anyway.

And there was last year on the comments here talk about other places too, maybe with little less price than this 900 RMB???

After all 900 RMB for one girl is bit much but...once in a lifetime right? 

The one comment showed 1000RMB for two girls etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, heading to Shanghai hotel tonight! Thanks for Werewolfs Lair I found this. Although, I would love to hear from other similar places.</p>
<p>How I say &#8220;red sash&#8221; in Chinese when I want to see this thing?</p>
<p>I speak no Chinese except basic greeting. I hope to get serviced anyway.</p>
<p>And there was last year on the comments here talk about other places too, maybe with little less price than this 900 RMB???</p>
<p>After all 900 RMB for one girl is bit much but&#8230;once in a lifetime right? </p>
<p>The one comment showed 1000RMB for two girls etc.<br /> <a href="http://www.2thebigmango.com/viewcomments/2623613564" rel="nofollow">View all comments by No name this time</a></p>
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		<title>By: A Celebration of Mediocrity &#171; Werewolf&#8217;s Lair</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Celebration of Mediocrity &#171; Werewolf&#8217;s Lair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a better, and perhaps more eloquent idea of what I&#8217;m talking about, take a look at this account of a visit to Shanghai&#8217;s Red Rope Lounge on the Mango Blog: Then, I’m not gonna diagram it, but you will have to imagine how a naked [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a better, and perhaps more eloquent idea of what I&#8217;m talking about, take a look at this account of a visit to Shanghai&#8217;s Red Rope Lounge on the Mango Blog: Then, I’m not gonna diagram it, but you will have to imagine how a naked [...]<br /> <a href="http://www.2thebigmango.com/viewcomments/0" rel="nofollow">View all comments by A Celebration of Mediocrity &laquo; Werewolf&#8217;s Lair</a></p>
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		<title>By: redstar</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 08:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Easy to find.  Locate Equatorial Hotel, which is right next to the high-level expressway at Jing'An Temple.  Behind and to the right of that is the Shanghai Hotel (behind and to the left is the Hilton).

It's still the case that none of the girls has any English, but it has been really good, on every visit.  Sometimes you have to ask for the red sash performance, but the kit is always in their little 'bag'; I guess it's pretty hard work and they may try to avoid doing it all the time.  Re the little bag, I managed to talk #76 into letting me have a rummage around and there were a couple of interesting items - of which we had a little go with her in a mesh body stocking, with appropriate apertures naturally.

I am negotiating a season ticket !

Afterwards you can wander over to the Brazil BBQ opp. Jing'An temple to replace the protein lost.  10x better than any hotel steak-bar, and a fraction of the cost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Easy to find.  Locate Equatorial Hotel, which is right next to the high-level expressway at Jing&#8217;An Temple.  Behind and to the right of that is the Shanghai Hotel (behind and to the left is the Hilton).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s still the case that none of the girls has any English, but it has been really good, on every visit.  Sometimes you have to ask for the red sash performance, but the kit is always in their little &#8216;bag&#8217;; I guess it&#8217;s pretty hard work and they may try to avoid doing it all the time.  Re the little bag, I managed to talk #76 into letting me have a rummage around and there were a couple of interesting items - of which we had a little go with her in a mesh body stocking, with appropriate apertures naturally.</p>
<p>I am negotiating a season ticket !</p>
<p>Afterwards you can wander over to the Brazil BBQ opp. Jing&#8217;An temple to replace the protein lost.  10x better than any hotel steak-bar, and a fraction of the cost.<br /> <a href="http://www.2thebigmango.com/viewcomments/788916338" rel="nofollow">View all comments by redstar</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jack B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 13:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not sure where the Shanghai Hotel is, i was being taxied around and don't know the city. but it's well known.

there are other Red Sash places in China, finding them is a challenge, and needless to say the girls have to be trained and have to practice. tying a red sash to ceiling-fixtures and hanging naked from it while performing sexual acts is not a usual practice.

JtB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not sure where the Shanghai Hotel is, i was being taxied around and don&#8217;t know the city. but it&#8217;s well known.</p>
<p>there are other Red Sash places in China, finding them is a challenge, and needless to say the girls have to be trained and have to practice. tying a red sash to ceiling-fixtures and hanging naked from it while performing sexual acts is not a usual practice.</p>
<p>JtB<br /> <a href="http://www.2thebigmango.com/viewcomments/1878191572" rel="nofollow">View all comments by Jack B</a></p>
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		<title>By: shanghai brit</title>
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		<dc:creator>shanghai brit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 10:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this sounds very similar to the bat cave just off ton re lu please describe excatly where it is i am there.

I pay an average of 500rmb for a working girl but in judys u will pay about 800rmb for a flipper but well worth it  i think.

flippers are dirty</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this sounds very similar to the bat cave just off ton re lu please describe excatly where it is i am there.</p>
<p>I pay an average of 500rmb for a working girl but in judys u will pay about 800rmb for a flipper but well worth it  i think.</p>
<p>flippers are dirty<br /> <a href="http://www.2thebigmango.com/viewcomments/1176439602" rel="nofollow">View all comments by shanghai brit</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jack B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 05:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Japanese explore Shanghai after dark
By Masuo Kamiyama
May 28, 2007
http://www.asiansexgazette.com/asg/china/china06news78.htm

"Right now, Shanghai is the hottest spot in Asia -- believe it. It's got those famous karaoke clubs with hostesses, massage parlors and erotic baths. It's evolved beyond anything we Japanese can imagine."

So says the pseudonymous "Goya-sensei", who in Shukan Taishu offers to serve as guide to his understudy, reporter "Pokoni," for an in-depth orientation into the sensual delights of China's largest city.

After a comfortable 3-hour flight from Tokyo, our reporter friend was met by Prof. Goya outside the customs area at Pudong International Airport. En route to the city, the sensei advises him that while sex-related services are officially verboten in China, the authorities generally take a hands-off approach to hands-on lechery.

"But sensei," he protests. "Aren't Japanese occasionally caught up in busts? I mean, I read stories in the news from time to time..."

"Yeah, well, those do happen, but they're just done to keep up appearances," he explains. "The crackdowns generally occur just before Chinese Lunar New Year or the October 1 National Day. The rest of the time, as long as you confine your cavorting to conventional activities, you won't have any problems."

Goya-sensei then brandished a free newspaper crammed full of ads clearly aimed at visiting Japanese males.

After an inexpensive, but somewhat disappointing 300-yuan (4,800 yen) quickie at a Korean-style massage in the city's Hongqiao district, the two then proceeded to a deluxe sauna in the neighboring Gubei district.

The shop shared the building with a Japanese-style restaurant.

Charges for a bath and foot massage, followed by a 60-minute "special massage," come to 620 Chinese yuan (about 9,900 Japanese yen), or even better, a deluxe 90-minute course that includes two girls simultaneously that costs 1,000 yuan (about 16,000 yen).

After enjoying a relaxing soak in the tub, our reporter was escorted to a private room upstairs, where he had the pleasure of making the acquaintance of a slender celestial beauty, 22 years old, who stood 160cm tall. Her name was Xiaohua -- Little Flower.

About 70 percent of her shop's clientele are Japanese, she tells him, speaking remarkably serviceable Japanese.

"Japanese are big-hearted, so I like them," she smiles fetchingly to Shukan Taishu's reporter. "Okay, please turn over and lie face down."

Ingesting a mouthful of water, Xiaohua then proceeded to lick her customer from shoulder blades to feet, in every pore and orifice. And we do mean every. Which prompted Pokoni to moan, "Ooohhh sugoi" (this is fantastic)!

"We call this water-and-tongue treatment 'binghuo' (ice fire) in Chinese," she confides to him.

Then Xiaohua got aboard the legendary "red swing" -- using a red cloth strung through two poles running along the ceiling to suspend herself upside down in midair -- in an acrobatic finale that Pokoni describes as a red-winged angel performing an antigravity blowjob!!

"Uhhhh, Xiaohua, I can't hold it any longer!" he groans ecstatically.

"Ahhhhh! Haaa!! Dao le! (there it comes)," she gurgles.

After moving to the recovery room, Pokoni indulged in some complementary won-ton and exchanged banter with the sensei, who informs his understudy he had potently pleasured his own partner using a pearl-implanted penis probe.

"Sensei, what can I tell you? This was incredible!" he remarks.

"Yep," he chuckles, "The Shanghainese really know their business. Some even attended college in Japan. And some shop owners are even Japanese.

"Since the competition is so intense, I think things will get better and better, with China learning from Japan as a role model. This country will become a 'Pink business advanced nation,'" he predicts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Japanese explore Shanghai after dark<br />
By Masuo Kamiyama<br />
May 28, 2007<br />
<a href="http://www.asiansexgazette.com/asg/china/china06news78.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.asiansexgazette.com/asg/china/china06news78.htm</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Right now, Shanghai is the hottest spot in Asia &#8212; believe it. It&#8217;s got those famous karaoke clubs with hostesses, massage parlors and erotic baths. It&#8217;s evolved beyond anything we Japanese can imagine.&#8221;</p>
<p>So says the pseudonymous &#8220;Goya-sensei&#8221;, who in Shukan Taishu offers to serve as guide to his understudy, reporter &#8220;Pokoni,&#8221; for an in-depth orientation into the sensual delights of China&#8217;s largest city.</p>
<p>After a comfortable 3-hour flight from Tokyo, our reporter friend was met by Prof. Goya outside the customs area at Pudong International Airport. En route to the city, the sensei advises him that while sex-related services are officially verboten in China, the authorities generally take a hands-off approach to hands-on lechery.</p>
<p>&#8220;But sensei,&#8221; he protests. &#8220;Aren&#8217;t Japanese occasionally caught up in busts? I mean, I read stories in the news from time to time&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Yeah, well, those do happen, but they&#8217;re just done to keep up appearances,&#8221; he explains. &#8220;The crackdowns generally occur just before Chinese Lunar New Year or the October 1 National Day. The rest of the time, as long as you confine your cavorting to conventional activities, you won&#8217;t have any problems.&#8221;</p>
<p>Goya-sensei then brandished a free newspaper crammed full of ads clearly aimed at visiting Japanese males.</p>
<p>After an inexpensive, but somewhat disappointing 300-yuan (4,800 yen) quickie at a Korean-style massage in the city&#8217;s Hongqiao district, the two then proceeded to a deluxe sauna in the neighboring Gubei district.</p>
<p>The shop shared the building with a Japanese-style restaurant.</p>
<p>Charges for a bath and foot massage, followed by a 60-minute &#8220;special massage,&#8221; come to 620 Chinese yuan (about 9,900 Japanese yen), or even better, a deluxe 90-minute course that includes two girls simultaneously that costs 1,000 yuan (about 16,000 yen).</p>
<p>After enjoying a relaxing soak in the tub, our reporter was escorted to a private room upstairs, where he had the pleasure of making the acquaintance of a slender celestial beauty, 22 years old, who stood 160cm tall. Her name was Xiaohua &#8212; Little Flower.</p>
<p>About 70 percent of her shop&#8217;s clientele are Japanese, she tells him, speaking remarkably serviceable Japanese.</p>
<p>&#8220;Japanese are big-hearted, so I like them,&#8221; she smiles fetchingly to Shukan Taishu&#8217;s reporter. &#8220;Okay, please turn over and lie face down.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ingesting a mouthful of water, Xiaohua then proceeded to lick her customer from shoulder blades to feet, in every pore and orifice. And we do mean every. Which prompted Pokoni to moan, &#8220;Ooohhh sugoi&#8221; (this is fantastic)!</p>
<p>&#8220;We call this water-and-tongue treatment &#8216;binghuo&#8217; (ice fire) in Chinese,&#8221; she confides to him.</p>
<p>Then Xiaohua got aboard the legendary &#8220;red swing&#8221; &#8212; using a red cloth strung through two poles running along the ceiling to suspend herself upside down in midair &#8212; in an acrobatic finale that Pokoni describes as a red-winged angel performing an antigravity blowjob!!</p>
<p>&#8220;Uhhhh, Xiaohua, I can&#8217;t hold it any longer!&#8221; he groans ecstatically.</p>
<p>&#8220;Ahhhhh! Haaa!! Dao le! (there it comes),&#8221; she gurgles.</p>
<p>After moving to the recovery room, Pokoni indulged in some complementary won-ton and exchanged banter with the sensei, who informs his understudy he had potently pleasured his own partner using a pearl-implanted penis probe.</p>
<p>&#8220;Sensei, what can I tell you? This was incredible!&#8221; he remarks.</p>
<p>&#8220;Yep,&#8221; he chuckles, &#8220;The Shanghainese really know their business. Some even attended college in Japan. And some shop owners are even Japanese.</p>
<p>&#8220;Since the competition is so intense, I think things will get better and better, with China learning from Japan as a role model. This country will become a &#8216;Pink business advanced nation,&#8217;&#8221; he predicts.<br /> <a href="http://www.2thebigmango.com/viewcomments/1878191572" rel="nofollow">View all comments by Jack B</a></p>
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		<title>By: Wombat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wombat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 14:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enough already. All you guys whining about mundane sex in Thailand. Try it down here where you get NO SEX unless you like copulating with whales. Only 12 more days. Sigh.

Nice article though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enough already. All you guys whining about mundane sex in Thailand. Try it down here where you get NO SEX unless you like copulating with whales. Only 12 more days. Sigh.</p>
<p>Nice article though.<br /> <a href="http://www.2thebigmango.com/viewcomments/1479049002" rel="nofollow">View all comments by Wombat</a></p>
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