Before we get to that I must mention a tad bit of politics. Hat tip to OAH on this one from the Sentinel. Typical political stuff with a mention of a 3rd party I was not familiar with. I am sure with none of it having any bearing at all but I love the mention of the Khmer temple and the fight over it. Most Thais won’t admit it but they share so much with the Cambodians and at one point were very un-developed as compared to the Khmer Empire. Sure. Times have changed but watch a uni girl try to explain to you how the Thai language is different than the Khmer language and you will get what I mean. No problem honey. Keep talking - I understand. Yes - u can leave your skirt on.
Moving on. The grand opening is tomorrow. Please drop by if u are in town. The out of towners can paypal me money so that I can make sure pmmp and I get really drunk as a coping mechanism.
I have written many times that the longer you live in Thailand the more your tastes change and your methods for working the p4p scene evolve. There seems to be people that hold the view that one no longer explores p4p because they are chasing normal tail. Or one enters a relationship and then no longers needs p4p. Whatever the reasoning I love bkk for precisely the fact that the p4p is here, normal relationships are on the decks and chasing reserve tail is also possible. Hell - sometimes all of this happens on the same day. Living the dream.
For me the beauty in p4p is the ease of use. Sometimes I am lazy, don’t have time to chase tail or I want a repeat of a particular experience. p4p augments my Thailand life. It is not the only experience at all. I love all the chatter on member clubs coming from people who never go pretending to understand it or declaring how lame they are. It is just another layer folks - with normal girls, working girls and other people to meet all rolled into a fun entertainment venue. That is all. Why limit yourself to one facet of a country with so much entertainment depth? Moving on though.
Go-go bars. They are what they are. I used to think they were amazing but knowing the man behind the curtain now I am less impressed. However I still enjoy them a ton. How can one not? Naked girls, drinks and slap and tickle. All good. However I don’t find it a good pulling ground but I am getting better at finding the occasional keeper. Now a days I look for new girls, chat them up, barfine if needed but mostly focus on getting a number and establishing some ground rules. Using this model I have assembled a few that have been worth knowing.
A few months back we had a big night out wishing a buddy good luck on his re-entry to the US. We ended up in one of the small, crappy bars to knock a few more back. That is when I saw a tall light skinned girl that looked out of place.I pounced. She was new. 1 week in. From south of Chiang Mai. Spoke english with an london accent. I am not saying she is not experienced cause she is, but she is new to the go-go scene and was devoid of attitude. Paid bar and went clubbing. Get in there JD!
Things have been so busy lately that I have not been out at all. So much to my surprise I got a call the other day around 3pm from the girl mentioned above. She was in the PB hotel for a night. Of course understanding why she was in the PB was part of the story. She had just got back from Phukett and needed a room for the night. Who was I to let her stay alone. So when I finally got out off of work I swung by.
She was in a towel and freshly showered. We were trying to decide if we wanted to go out or chill. Then she said that either way we should have sex first and then make a decision. Fine with me. Problem is after 2 hours of action with toys and stuff - I was exhausted. She likes toys. Toys for her. She is a porn star basically. What can I say. Then the decision was made to order some food and I went to 7 for some booze.
Sitting around the table in our towels the GFE-T came out. She served the food, made sure I had a full drink and acted like the Thai girls we all know and love. This is the addicting part of Thailand. The feeling I never get in AC or in other places where the Chinese influence is too great. I love the unseen doting Thai girls do and the way they make u feel special. After feasting down she cleaned up and we sat around the computer. I got a lesson in how the freelancer pros work the system.
PSGFE-T has 3 phones. One for the friends and family. One for customers and another for GPRS. She is always online and since she never knows when she will have wi-fi she mostly uses her phone. She primarily uses adultfriendfinder to find guys and set up appointments. Since doing this she sees no reason to ever step back into a go-go bar. The great thing was watching her work it online. Ruthless but polite comes to mind.
She scans weight and age first but she says the weight thing bothers her more since she says it is hard to have enjoyable sex. Age is not a huge factor providing the guy is fun to talk to. She looks for people coming to holiday that want a good time but that don’t stay too long. Then she can keep up her local contacts and not leave too many out in the cold. What amazes me is the amount of dirty but uninteresting messages she got and how quickly she disperses them. She commented on how boring most guys were and how they don’t give her any reason to choose them over someone else. As she stated it is not always about the money but about having fun and trying new things. So I helped her answers some emails and some chat sessions. Sorry guys. I was pretty ruthless as well.
Anyway. PSTGFE-T is a gem. No attitude. Great bod. Delivers in the sack. Knows how to apply the right amount of female Thai-ness in the right situations. Love this town.
Oh - but isn’t it all about the variety though? For me it is.
So I found myself having a round in Soi Cowboy the other night. Was in one of the bars with a lot of nudity and some shows. Saw another girl I had never seen before. 1.5 months into the system. Still living on top of the bar. Young and not yet tainted. I watched her do the shuffle and bought her a drink. Just a tiny bundle of Thai cuteness. English poor but was making the effort. I decided to barfine since it had been a few days and I like the newbies.
She had to do the 4 girl shower show first so I waited. Then she threw on a nice little dress and off we were. As we walked up the soi I swear I noticed she was either wearing a tiny thong or no underwear. So I asked to be sure. No underwear she said. No time to wash them yet and only has a few pairs. Love it. We got to the PB and I jumped in the shower. She refrained but reminded me she had just performed the shower show and every nook and cranny had been soaped up. I recall watching that and realizing she was probably cleaner than me.
After the shower I bounced out ready to rock. Then she asked if I would have more fun with the dress on or off. I voted for on and we went to town. Small, no undies, cute dress and a high wattage smile did the trick. We exchanged pleasantries but no numbers. She has no phone yet but we have chatted since by payphone.
Not a porn star and still learning GFE but she was fun. Fun is the key word for me and not yet ruined by the system. All this counts the most when it comes to what I look for. So the go-gos still have some gems but I think u have to look deeper and not be too quick to pull the trigger.
The variety in bkk is staggering though and tough to beat.
I am still exploring TLL with no hook ups yet but I am working it. Looking for any tips but the hardest part with TLL is managing the profiles, phone numbers, emails and chat IDs. I now have numbers for girls and I can’t remember what their TLL profile is. Must organize my trolling better.
VGI. TYVM.
WTF is a PSTGFE-T?
GTG.
TTFN.
View all comments by Bangkok Bad Boy
wtf is VGI and all that shit?
u don’t know GFE - girl friend experience
PS - porn stat
-t for the thai option
got that sesame street?
View all comments by smitty
VGI. TYVM.
very good info. thank you very much.
I liked this post. I often read about the horrors of go go bars, but I still enjoy them and the girls in them. Like you have written, I focus on fresh faces, smiles and good attitudes.
View all comments by werewolf
Nice post Smitty.
My experience with TLL is similar. I frequently confused messages with profiles also. I tried to be nice and reply to every message but that became time consuming.
I found most of the ladies are looking for marriage material. While others liked to play games and try to keep me interested.
I avoided the quick and easy ones for personal standard reasons. I guess I’ve become another monger who’s evolved.
I know two former massage girls who maintain contacts with MSN chat and emails. And yes, they are worth it.
Now, I use Tagged but limit the circle of friends to ease the management issues. Next week in Bkk will be interesting.
View all comments by pablo
Heh, cheers. Honestly had no idea what you were talking about
@WW: “Very Good Indeed”.
Gogos nowadays are indeed all about the diamonds in the rough…
View all comments by Bangkok Bad Boy
Goes to show. Don’t write off Go Gos. Fresh faces every week. So what is a shit hole one week can be heaven the next. You just have to keep looking or you may just miss that pink diamond
View all comments by docsmith
they have computers in the pb hotel?
View all comments by MSB
Yeah, I had no fucking clue what PSGFE-T was (I did know the GFE part).
How much does a porn star go for these days?
As for TLL, I can’t get any of these girls to tellme anything about them. As all their profiles are free, they don’t say jack. I ask questions about them and they don’t answer.
If I can’t get more than a name and e-mail, I have very little interest in pursuing it.
Someone with a personality please!
View all comments by The Ghost
TLL ?
ThaiLovelines.com, or Thailovelinks.com ?
View all comments by Mike
That’s true. it is hard to follow :
OAH - GFE - PSGFE - GPRS - PSGFE-T BKK - PS - TLL…
Do you encrypt your posts now or what???
Completely with you regarding the diversity, as long as it is fun.
View all comments by Suk Psycho
Did someone say “paid the bar and went clubbing”?
I assume that was AFTER u did ur business with your “date” de jour.
What can I say? I’m old school. Or maybe just old. I pay ‘em to leave not to come.
I know what u mean about this place, though. The talent is sick. Don’t tell anyone.
Just yesterday I saw the most luscious derrier on soi 8 on the way to the Nana BTS escalator. I cornered her on the ride up and said in my best pigeon English “u work soi 8?” To which she responded in her best JAPANESE pigeon, “so sorry, no understand.” My chance to scratch my yippun itch and i blew it; story of my life.
Liked your post.
Variety IS the spice of life and the stuff of momentarily happy men.
View all comments by jack dawson
I joined TLL after reading the other post about it
I have done nothing on it and haven’t paid to join but have 71 girls ‘interested.’ Problem being NOT ONE of them is attractive.
Had a quick scan through some profiles and I really can’t find any hot girls.
Better off walking into a bar/club IMHO
View all comments by james
Smitty
Great reading. Those of us who’re tucked up at home by ten really do love rocking and rolling vicariously with you, but I have to admit that I do wonder from time to time just how long you will be able to …. you’ll pardon the expression … keep it up.
Happy opening day at the Mango. To paraphrase my old friend Captain Kirk, may you and your erections live long and prosper.
View all comments by Old Asia Hand
I “pass through” BKK about twice a year and stay 1 or 2 nights max. My only option is ST at GGs. I am ALWAYS [naively] amazed at how many cute girls are available. MORE amazing is the service one gets. They ALWAYS act as if I am the absolute love of their lives and like they were having the most amazing orgasmic sex ever [neither of which can be possibly be true].
BTW my game plan is always: 1. get hotel near to te action. 2. go to GG early [usually Rainbow] and BF quickly. 3. Catch up on some sleep. 4. Hit streets and see what else is available in the way of freelance action afterhours. Again there is PLENTY out there for the careful punter. Last time I scored an absolute stunner just by following her up the street and engaging her in conversation. I could not believe my luck!! Other times I have chatted to girls having food at pavement stalls that I have seen at GGs.
View all comments by andyxyzb
And on the subject of TLL - for some reason I joined, which frankly was a waste of money for me, because I’m hardly going to meet any of these girls. Imagine my frustration!! I have a veritable stable of cute uni girls that chat with me and want to meet with me when I come to BKK next time. Bugger!!
View all comments by andyxyzb
Smitty: “She had to do the 4 girl shower show first so I waited.”
What do the girls get for the show? Anyone know?
View all comments by John Brown
msb - she has her own laptop.
mike - lovelinks
jd - the goal is increasing the moments of happiness with even less work. dangerous. we shagged after clubbing but I wanted to be sure u read the post.
james - just another layer. got to young uni girls on the go. will see what happens but I like playing all angles.
oah - good question. pmmp is still going strong so it gives me hope. I figure I will be okay until my gf gets jealous that I get more puss than she does. then I might have a problem. thanks for the good wishes.
jb - I am sure they get some extra for the show but knowing who the owner is I doubt it is very much.
View all comments by smitty
Gee, and I thought violating all known fireworks laws in my hometown was exciting. I’ve got to get out more.
OFP…..Outstandingfuckingpost.
Oh yeah….hope the Tylenol is working after the opening.
View all comments by The Asian Badger
Girls don’t get much for shows. one or two hundred baht gets them licking pussy on stage at Suzy Wongs in front of a bar full of people, which is utterly ridiculous when you consider how much it costs to get that same show in private.
View all comments by cabby
Dont the showgirls get around 12k per month? I seen the sandwich boards outside cowboy in the day, but i cant read english let alone thai
View all comments by Young Penfold
I don’t really partake in the P4P scene since all my money goes towards my macchiato fix.
View all comments by UnCochinoWetback
Smitty, Pmmp et al - May I add my best wishes for your hard stuff this evening - hope it goes great and nobody trashes the place before I get to visit.
Cheers - Doc
View all comments by doctorbond
I can’t believe I’m upcountry, alone in my room with my fan (that’s pad lom not girlfriend watching geckos chase grasshoppers across the floor while it pisses down rain outside and you bastards are having a party without me!
Congratulations on the Grand Opening. Happy Independence Day!
WW
View all comments by werewolf
AS soon as they add you on messenger you got to bang in a nickname the same as there profile. Otherwise your completely lost.
View all comments by Young Royal
Wish you guys all the success there at the new Bigmango,
I arrived in Bangkok on 4th of July last year and stayed 7 months at the Rajah Mansion. So I think I know-more-less where the new Mango is located. I’m back in Hawaii now, really bored. Hope to see you as soon as I can escape again.
I also want to congradulate you on your grand opening and hope you end it with a bang!!!
View all comments by Davilae001
well folks. party was rocking. I know pmmp has pics and I think we are gathering up some more from others as well.
stay tuned.
thanks to all the good wishes and thanks to this that come to party as well.
wild turkey is evil!
View all comments by smitty
I came across another angle a few days back - the mental case, yabaa, sangsom, gogo girl (MCYSGG). Barfined her from Fantasia and was thanked profusely for doing so. Back in the hotel she wouldn’t stop shagging, went out twice for more condoms, and lost count of the number of Bjs she gave me.
Okay, she was a nutter and in the light of the hotel room she didn’t look half as good as in the bar, but she was an exceptional 1000 baht’s worth.
Had to go to work the next day and I was crippled.
View all comments by Nok Opayop