One of the headlines today. The rumor mill is really cranking away on this latest story so I thought I would send the link to the story in the Nation. I received an sms yesterday from a friend about it and noticed that there was a crowd on soi 4 yesterday by this condo. Here’s the link:
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/read.php?newsid=30073829
Details are still a bit fuzzy but I’m sure it will be the topic of conversation in the local watering holes today.
-pmmp
Last night I must have had 5 different girls telling me they new her from rainbow 2, a few girls had walked down to nana condo when it happened and saw the guy laying naked on the ground right after the rain stopped, Supposedly he jumped 25 to 40 mins before anyone noticed him as it was raining.
The girl had a few friends in the bars on soi 6, so the rumors were going strong last night.
Unfortunate for all who new them.
View all comments by Jboy.bkk
Looks like once again the “slippery when wet” sign was missing.
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Jboy: I was also told by a girl who knew her that she worked at the Rainbow 2.
The small portion of the Thai Rath Thai article I could understand indicated they had been BF/GF for 5 years, and that jealousy caused frequent, violent arguments.
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I chatted with the AW security guard last night. Seems everyone knew about this girl and guy. They were together but she still worked. This I have never understood and I have seen it a few times with Japanese guys and their bargirl gf’s. In fact I used to live next to a similar couple and they fought all the time. This is a subject that needs looking at in my opinion.
How does one have a gf that still works in the bar?
Anyway - they all knew the girl and supposedly worried about her since the fighting was constant. Sick shit. This is the very depressing side of the scene for me.
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Only a pimp or a loverboy can have a gf that still works in a bar.
I think that many girls can’t give up the life, no matter how much money they make or get.
View all comments by hanuman
Dj and smitty : I had to ask a friend again last night just to find out a little more about it, and like you said they were known to argue a lot.
I misunderstood the girls the first night, I thought it was a 1 time thing, but its like you have said, they fought all the time.
Are these types of situations becoming more common? maybe another topic for that question.
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One can only imagine some of the Chinese whispers going around with this scenario with the bar girls.
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Smitty: I also don’t get guys living with their gilrfriends who are still working in the bars, but it might often be because the BF knows he cannot give the girl enough money to support her in the style to which she has been accustomed.
I know a former Rainbow 4 girl who lived together with her Japanese boyfriend for at least 2 years while she continued to work and go with customers usually daily (ST only). According to her sister, she was paying off his gambling debts of over 100,000 baht. She recently had a baby with him, and is currently out of the bar.
Bet she’ll be back.
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I agree with hanuman. The girls think they hate working in the bar but the truth is they are lazy and hate working in most cases, they actually enjoy chatting with their friends and the party lifestyle going farangs is just an inconvenient nuisance between som tam breaks. They make terrible companions. They have no clue how to manage money or say no to greedy boyfriends or family members so they’ll always be poor. They are trained to lie to their customers to make them happy and keep them from getting jealous.
Furthermore when they realize after leaving the bar they actually have to work be it at an office or a factory and for less money they can’t get back to spreading their legs fast enough but will be embarrassed to admit this so will try to keep it a secret. However you’ll keep hearing the same refrain. I no like this job, I love papa I love mama take care they. I hate Thai man he no good.
I would date a bargirl but only if she’s one of the few who made it out of the game and has been out for a number of years.
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Girls work in bars to make money. Just because the girl has a BF it doesn’t mean that he is able to support her, even if he’s farang. Maybe he’s a teacher! Seems a good compromise to me. She continues to work and make money. It’s a job. Together they save money for their future together. Quite romantic. (It also enables him to have some fun!).
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Don’t know how authentic this is, but it reads true:
The Nation has a blog today:
“THE TRUTH : BILL WAS BEATEN TO DEATH BY THE JAPANESE
Posted by Lalida , Reader : 78 , 16:47:38
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THIS IS THE TRUTH
I believe you all have read the news about the Japanese who murder a Thai lady. She’s my friend and will always be even she’s gone now. I’m writing this Blog is to clear her name before any unpleasant speculations about her being killed cause of money matters. This is the least I could do for her and I’m writing this in tears with my heart broken into pieces. Every single word is true in this blog of what I was told by my friends who was there. Do forgive me if the content of this blog appears with many spelling mistake or whatever. I am writing this in anger and in pain. I see her infront of me everytime I close my eyes, couldn’t forgive myself of not being there for her. I could have saved her life.
Her nick name is called “Bill”, a small woman at age 25 been working in the sex trade for many years and got to know this Japanese guy (Will call him as “F” in this blog) 5 years ago. She’s from Mukdahan (e-san) with a sick mother back home, her father left the family and married with someone else at her early age. Till the time of her death she was still working in the sex trade even though she’s been with this “F” for the last 5 years and with his knowledge of it, I was told she had many times went back to work with bruises all over her and complains nothing. She never say anything unless she is pushed. One of her close friend told us everytime when this “F” is drunk, He sits on her with her hands tieded beating up her face, she was ask, told to leave this “F” billions of times but again and again refused by “Bill” claiming things will change, “SHE KNOWS” she said. If anyone of you thinks she’s a con being with this “F” because of money. You’re Fxxking wrong. This “F” doesn’t even have enough to keep himself alive. He flies back and forth being fed by “Bill”. There are even times that “Bill” has to pay for his plane ticket back to Japan. She gave everything she could for the reason of True “LOVE” and what she gets in return was brutality and abuse, she stayed on believing things will change and end herself up to date. This is the trust and beliefs she gave in to the love of her life. She complains nothing and at the end she still protect this “F”, How can anyone in this world be as crazy for love as this…..How can…???????????
THE INCIDENT
At 7am on that day, Bill called all her friends including me and asked us to go see her because she felt lonely and wanted someone to talk to saying she had a fight with her boyfriend, I didn’t go as I was occupied with my personal matters, the rest went. They got there and saw her been beaten up already, bruises all over both of her eyes and face and believe it or not, that “F” was there with only his boxers on with no shame or of any guilt, Many of them wanted to call the police and try to pull her out away from him but she refused and say everything is fine, it’s ok, it’s just a misunderstanding, everything it’s clear now and she just wanted to talk to her friends, some asked what happened to her she told them she got hit by the hanging Clock, it’s was out of misunderstanding. Some went over to the “F” trying to give him one but was stopped by “Bill”, some try to call the police and was once again stopped. Somehow a few sensed there was something wrong already but nothing they could do. After a while when “Bill” chatted with everyone she gave each and everyone a rose before they leave saying she will always be in their hearts and ask them not to worry, everything is fine. So they left but still having query in their heads. Later In the EVENING, we heard she got murdered. It didn’t come as a surprise but blame ourselves not doing anything more aggressively at that moment when we had a chance. I’m even angrier at myself of not being able to be there for her. Everyone that knew her got this SMS BEFORE SHE DIED “Rao jak mai plak jak gun” meaning “WE WILL NEVER BE PARTED”. I couldn’t hold my tears now with this sms nor do I think anyone could in this world, I was going to call her when I received this sms but I was too busy to take some time off to do it. Some friends went to see her after they got the sms and that was when the maid entered the room and some went after they heard the news came out and told us she couldn’t even be recognized by looking at her face except to identify her with the Tattoo she’s got. Some police friends told them, she was killed by constant hitting on the head and face, she was not murdered by any weapon or strangle. In another words she was beaten to death.
Now the part of this “F”. HE DID NOT KILL HIMSELF OF GUILT, her friends suspected he fall off TRYING TO GET AWAY when the maid tries to get into the room after obtaining the room key. The maid heard “Bill” calling for help and bang on the door to get in, but nobody answer and quieted down, Probably one way or another this “F” silenced her already. The maid than went to the office to get the room key to enter and when she got in there, the floor was cover with blood with “Bill” lying there. We were also told from some Japanese who knew them that this “F” also call his friends before he died (have not heard what the conversation was about yet) the news is now spread in Japan by the honest Japanese who knew them.
HOW, HOW CAN A MAN DO SUCH A THING, LIVING ON A WOMAN AND TREATED HER LIKE AN ANIMAL, EVEN AS AN ANIMAL IT SHOULDN’T BE TREATED AS SUCH. WHERE’S THE FAIRNESS IN THIS WORLD, THEY NOT ONLY HAVE SACRIFICE THEIR PRIDE AND DIGNITY IN THEIR SOCIETY, ACCEPTING THE ABUSE AS A CON AND NOW THIS. DOES MEN AS SUCH HAVE A HEART, GOD, HOW I WISH THERE’S A HELL FOR THEM…..HOW I WISH, HOW I WISH…….
If anyone of you try to make any comment or blogs to twisted the fact of this inhumane murder or anymore defamation of these ladies of this trade, YOU HAVE LALIDA HERE TO DEFEND FOR THEM, JUST GOD DAMN TRY AND UNLESS YOU HAVE THE GUTS TO DO WHAT THEY DO AND READY TO ACCEPT HOW THE SOCIETY SEE YOU, THAN YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO COME AND TELL ME I’M WRONG.
I will update this blog with every new info that I received.
P.S. I apologize if in any way I have offended anyone, but at this very moment is how and what I felt. Please, I do not want to debate anything in this blog. It’s a tribute to my friend and with this blog I hope she could rest in peace and if heaven do exist, I hope she will be there. This is the least I could do for her, I am unable to post about her funeral as Thai people do not keep the body when they’re murdered or unnatural death, she is being cremated today back in her Home Town.
I have requested the Nation to put this Blog up on the front page so people will know the truth of this inhumane murder and to tell you all there’s a true side of these women who worked dangerouly for merely a bit more for the sake of their personal reasons. I’m not asking you to pity any of them but I’m asking you to at least pity and give your condolence to this crazy woman “BILL” who gave out her true love and life to this so called “MAN” who brutally murdered her.”
Link
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And a link here (in Thai) with picture of the girl. Really, really sad.
http://www.thairath.com/offline.php?section=hotnews&content=90910
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Whats even more sad is that his prick was hanging out of his shorts. As if the embarrassment wasnt enough already
View all comments by Young Penfold
“What’s even more sad is that his prick was hanging out of his shorts. As if the embarrassment wasn’t enough already”
Actually being Japanese I’d imagine he’d be rather proud that it was big enough to hang out.
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Wentworth theres no need to poke fun at the dead now! Although if I was an onduty officer i would laugh so hard that i shat myself
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I knew this girl because I lived at Nana Condo for 6 months. I knew she had a Japanese boyfriend. I actually hung out in her room twice so I’m lucky to be alive.
She played guitar well and sang for me. I could tell she had problems. Small girl with a slightly hourse voice, smoker I think.
I think the boyfriend landed in the back of the building because her room was in the back side of the condo, 5th floor.
Rest in Peace Bew
View all comments by James
Beating on a girl? Not if I’m around.
That mother fucker should have been taken to the Police Station long ago. Of course, everybody knows the Thai Cops would do nonthing.
Let’s blame this one on the useless Thai Police Force.
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DJ: “Smitty: I also don’t get guys living with their gilrfriends who are still working in the bars, but it might often be because the BF knows he cannot give the girl enough money to support her in the style to which she has been accustomed”
hanuman “Only a pimp or a loverboy can have a gf that still works in a bar.”
Heh. Since I’m not a pimp, I must have been a “loverboy” at one time. I’m chuffed!
Maybe you guys don’t “get” it but there’s also the option that some guys just aren’t jealous as you and the average guy. They may just fall into the situation of becoming the ‘boyfriend’ of a bargirl from previously being a customer if the girl takes a liking to them.
This went for me. She worked in Rainbow bars. She stayed with me but I didn’t give her money, she went to work and I didn’t care what she did there because I was still doing short times too. (Fair’s fair, right?) Apart from fidelity, we were pretty normal bf and gf.
No jealousy from my part so I wasn’t going to do what this guy did. Later on, there was jealousy from her as she wanted fidelity.
I liked the setup. Short-time thrills combined with the comfort of someone ‘taking care of you’. Fidelity’s overrated. You can have love without it. Some guys seem to want to treat girls more like belongings rather than free people. That’s probably what happened here.
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b - interesting angle. My guess is you are not Japanese though? I am not saying that the relationship you have cannot work. Not for me of course but maybe for u it can. I was specifically referencing thought that I have seen this with some Japanese guys and it always has problems. Maybe the Japanese guys are just wound a little too tight for this type of setup.
I see your points though.
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I’m not Japanese, no, but quite a few of my girl’s friend’s guys were, of course. Didn’t get to know any of them well because of their limited English and my non-existent Japanese but they were young guys and seemed relaxed enough. I never heard any reports of mistreatment from them and I think I would have done if there had been. You get to know most things after a while.
I don’t really see the opposite point. From a man’s point of view, why can’t it work? What’s a girlfriend for? For doing normal stuff - living with, sleeping with, eating with, going to the movies, going to places, having fun, things that make you feel good. Sex becomes a lesser part after a while but I grow to appreciate the warm touchy feely stuff more.
Most men will still (I guess) WANT to fuck around, even if they have a girlfriend, and would do so on a s/t basis if they were sure they wouldn’t be caught. So why worry about keeping a girl to yourself? As long as the girl’s available for you when you want and is not giving you anything nasty from those other encounters, who cares? It doesn’t seem fair or logical.
I appreciate I’m unusual amongst men in this respect. (I also don’t share the fascination that most men seem to have for lesbian shows and stuff like that. Why would I like a girl who’s interested in GIRLS? I want a girl who’s interested in ME!)
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b - i see your point and you could just be more evolved than most. not really a right or wrong here. As for the lesbian thing I can’t see your point on this at all so we can just agree to completely disagree on this one.
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Some of the women at the bars have thai boyfrinds. He takes advantage of a loney, vulnabale women with no sense of self worth and uses her for money and sex.
Why is it so hard to believe that a jap or farang couldnt do the same thing? Come on.
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An interesting story of woes and different thoughts on something that is probably not that un-common. The one thing that is really bad about this whole fkkking thing is that “there was no intervention” by friends, family, or collegues. Yet everyone knew about this asshole and nobody did a thing. When something, or someone becomes habitual in his treatment of someone that it becomes the norm to see them with bruises and cuts…….I am sorry, but you are all fucked up!
Someone should have taken a baseball bat to this guy a long time ago as a warning. If he did it again, put him in hospital!! You can walk down to a vendor and by a halloween mask and do the task without being recognized. Yeah yeah I know….we are a civilized society! Wrong. If it was civilized, this guy would be in treatment instead of being dead, and she would be singing and playing guitar for friends, instead of being dead. Wake the f%#k up folks! If it smells like shit, it probably is shit. Instead of being woeful here, rejoice with someone you have pulled out of the fire!!
This scene was sparking long before the blaze came.
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