Hey folks. Back from playland and back into the groove. I think I have finally discovered why I could never live in Pattaya. It is a two-fold issue. First - if I lived in Pattaya then it would no longer be that holiday break I enjoy when I get out of Bangkok. So living in Bangkok allows me to enjoy Pattaya for all it’s “fun” without getting ruined by the place. Secondly - I just do not seem to be able find that other layer of Pattaya. The one with the classier set, the cooler clubs, and the well dressed ladies. Maybe I am not looking hard enough or I don’t know the right spots so I am open for criticism on this one, but as soon as I arrived home on the bus from Pattaya and jumped onto the Skytrain I was immediately reminded of why I love Bkk so much - u can hit on all cylinders in one town. The low-end, the P4P, the uni crowd, the office crowd and all the intersections of these various layers. Incredible diversity all wrapped up in one chaotic metropolis. Pattaya is fun though - and as long as I am in Bkk it will remain a nice getaway spot. One night is all I had though -
On a side note I wanted to say thanks to all of our readers, commenters and customers. We seem to be finding an audience who appreciates our form of banter. It could be that there is some room in this space for a blog, it could be we are just lucky or maybe some of you out there actually get what we are trying to do. Who the hell knows. I was talking to a blog reader the other day in the bar and he summed up what the blog was to him - a nightlife update, some political commentary and a view into how to survive in Thailand while running a business. Better than I could have explained it myself and reinforced that we just need to keep pushing. To the juicy stuff…
It is slow season folks. Make no doubt about it, but my guess is that it is worse than most given the current environment in Thailand. Lack of governance, poor policy decisions, poor foreign investment guidance, bad tourist visa policies and an extortionist police regime seem to be taking their toll. Some tourists are choosing to go elsewhere for the naughty nightlife and there is less business going on then there used to be. I hope it bottoms out hard enough to send a wake-up call to the powers that be that without tourism this country will lose one of its biggest money makers - end of story. In reading the book, Prostitution in Thailand, it discusses how in the 80’s and 90’s the police we encouraged to expand, foster and make money off of nightlife since it was bringing in tourists. A friend was telling me that 20 years ago in the Thermae your beer was usually served to you by the local cop who smiled and thanked you for your business. Contrast this to the shakedown many tourists experience from the local cops. Then add in the bar owners who are constantly being asked to pay more for less and it should not take a brain surgeon to discover why the bars are slow, the street stalls are empty and the girls are out roaming the streets for customers. Great if you are a punter but not such a good environment in Thailand for the long haul. Let’s get the elections out of the way, realize that all Asian countries need a steady stream of foreign investment, and at the end of the day Thailand is still just exports(rice and trucks) and tourism.
For this trip to Pattaya I stayed at the MaMaison Hotel on Beach road and Soi 13. Great spot. Not the cheapest but great value for the money. Around 900 baht for breakfast, great rooms, good location and a nice pool. My only complaint would be the noisy assholes who seem to think that banging on their friend’s door at 8 in the morning yelling about something from the night before is necessary behavior but I blame Pattaya - not the hotel. You can find cheaper digs but usually cheaper than this means no pool and lower room quality. I will most likely be back.
After a swim and some schedule coordination we headed out for dinner. I wanted to stop in again at the Blue Parrot on Soi 13/4 to see if it had really gone downhill. I saw the same new menu but was surprised to see the same waitresses, bartender and cashier than I had always known - meaning something was wrong the last time I went in. We decided to take another chance and I am glad I did. The food was back to being a great value and was tasty as ever. We chowed down and washed it all back with some margaritas. Much relieved we moved on.
First stop was any place we could find along walking street with a nice view of the circus. One forgets that when u live here all the time u start to take the views for granted but when out and about with someone on holiday who stops to take in walking street with all it glory then one is quickly reminded how wacked the place is. All sorts of nationalities poured into a street, wearing all sorts of outfits - with most people looking like they are in the wrong place. Then just focusing on the various punters and their ladies can provide at least an hour of good, cheap entertainment. Seems one of the new fashion statements for working girls is to wear underwear and high heels while cruising the street.
First stop was Superbaby. Okay - I always go there. I know the staff well. I usually get a free drink and if the owner is around I get a good Pattaya behind the scenes update so I have my reasons. As usual the music was popping but the the hottie quality had gone down a tad. It could be the slow season, too many barfines or whatever. Just worth a note. My friend pointed out that he is always afraid to barfine at Superbaby because they all look so young. I would have to agree.
We popped into Heaven’s Above but did not sit down because although the place was full the girls looked picked over and the service girl was too pushy. We bailed.
From there we headed over to the Club Boesche area but before we made it there we got sucked into a Taboo. Taboo is one of the new joints trying to capitalize on the we are a go go come coyote place come lounge bar come we just want to make money and thought if we put everything in one bar that we might. Well - it sucks folks. Pick a format, pick a mantra but don’t try to be everything. A few of the coyote girls were hot but they acted liked the Forte girls and pretended to be too hot to care. Then 2 of the non-cute girls came over and basically forced themselves on us. We tried to ignore them but they would not get the hint. My girl finally left when I declined to give her a drink but my friend’s girl would not stop and when he finally told her to leave him alone she started crying. The worst of all situations. We paid without finishing our drinks but the bathrooms were nice.
When left this area and headed back to walking street to check into Living Dolls Showcase. There are always a few hotties at this place and the shows are good. In fact I noticed a few Heaven’s Above girls working here now. The were plenty of girls, the shows were naked and the hostesses were nice so we stuck around for a drink or two. Then another show started and I was noticing how tall the girls were. All them were tall, all had fake boobs and all of them were just so - well perfect. Then I noticed one girl who kept playing with her hair and checking herself in the mirror. U know they way they all do at the ladyboy bars in a way that allows u to always tell them apart from the girls. The girls in go go bars look at themselves too but they look at their body, their dancing, their g-string but the ladyboys look at their hair and face more than anything else. So I asked the hostess very politely if there are ladyboys in the show and she said no but they all had fake boobs. Then I pointed her to the one girl I was sure was a girl and who did not have fake boobs and the hostess said that she did not have fake boobs. It was a litmus test. I needed to know who the real girl was.
There was a point in the show where they all did the splits and the real girl was the only one to really get all the way down to the floor - the way only real girls or male gymnasts can. The rest of the “girls” did the splits better than I could but about the way boys do the splits. Then they all got naked - except for 2 “girls” who did not take off their underwear. Wonder why. The problem was one of the “girls” who did take of her underwear had the most beautiful shaved pussy we had ever seen but from what I hear that does not mean anything these days. After the show a couple of the “girls” walked by me with their big hands and with a gait that only ladyboys have. Look folks maybe the newbies can’t tell the difference but if u have lived around Thailand long enough u can spot them by the way they walk, talk, play with their hair and the way the look at u. U just can. Interestingly enough I noticed the “girls” did not rush out to sit with customers or interact much. They went back into the dressing room and got ready for another show. I would put money on it that at last 3 of the “girls” were cut ladyboys but no one would tell me one way or another. I never would have figured I would see this in a place like Living Dolls Showcase. Anyone else? I think bars are going in a disturbing direction. If u have ladyboys - cut or not then the bar should tell u if u ask. End of story. Anyone else vote for full disclosure?
On a similar trend - 2 of the go go bars on Soi 13/4 had been turned into gay bars. Literally they added Boys in neon to their front signage and re-opened as gay go go bars. Everything else was the same. Is this a trend? Is business that bad? Are the girls pricing themselves out of the market or are there just too many go go bars? The barfines are cheaper, the transaction is cheaper and I think the drink prices were less as well. What’s going on?
After Living Dolls Showcase we headed to Peppermint, checked in on Marine, then headed to Happy, then back Marine, then back to Peppermint and back to Marine. Then my friend pulled the chute. I kept going. Then there was the next morning. The soapie hunt. The lack of chicks. Then Soi 6. Then the bus ride home. I guess I will have to write part 2 then.
Carry on!
I’m against full disclosure. It’s just so much more fun watching the FOBs.
View all comments by Combover
Thermae is still owned by a cop, and whilst he hasn’t served me beer, he’s certainly still visible in there towards the end of the night - in full uniform, of course. That said, it’s a while since I’ve been.
I vote for full disclosure, although I’ve yet to meet a “girl” whose gender I was anything less than 100% sure of.
Pattaya has some decent bars, but the people - ugh.
The now sadly missed Morally Diminished wrote:
Personally, I’d disagree with him on the 100% - I’d say it’s more like 90%, obviously present company are excepted
View all comments by Bangkok Bad Boy
Well I rather like Pattaya. Small doses (ahem) only though. Like 2-3 days at a time.
View all comments by Combover
CO : I agree there is some fun in the FOB factor but it won’t help me side with not disclosing. Mostly cause I think it is a bad trend and in talking to some Thai’s in the biz they assume that a pretty cut ladyboy is the same as a girl. But it ain’t and it could cause issues down the road.
BBB: Harsh one. Can’t say I feel that way about the place but I have my moments. All in all - I still like visiting now and then.
CO : I think I was trying to say the same thing. I like it for a bit and then I come back to Bkk and appreciate them both for what they are.
View all comments by smitty
Ladyboys, Ugh! Whichever way you look at it, kateoys are men. I don’t do men, tits or not.
View all comments by Union Hill
I also like to read this Blog for the reasons one of your customers does. And it always gives me that little “being in BKK”-feeling, despite being in Germany right now… but coming back next week.
I only once visited Pattaya one evening (coming over from Jomtien Beach), and that was on the day of the King’s birthday.. you all know what that means concerning nightlife… But I still was rather disgusted by that place… terrible crowd, a let’s-put-sand-on-a-garbage-dump-beach, and the female population seems to consist to 95% of prostitutes…thats too much for my taste. My personal favorite is Patong Beach, best mixture of everything.
I prefer bars like the Hillary, Big Mango, that sort… more relaxed, nice, usually not so pushy girls, good music and .. I love playing pool though my skills are bad.
AND: I am also for 100% disclosure!!! Once had a slightly physical “discussion” with a lady-boy in front of the entrance of a hotel (= lots of people watching)… never again!
View all comments by Phoenix
yeah - my only point is the full disclosure, not trying to pass them off as ladies and when confronted - admitting the truth. I have no issue with the ladyboys personally nor do I want this thread to be about ladyboy bashing but this mixing them up in normal go go bars is just bad.
thanks.
View all comments by smitty
Maybe green number tags for ladyboys. Would make a good unspoken rule if all the bars did it.
View all comments by Young Royal
Awesome idea. If they are unreceptive to doing this then they are trying to hid them or fool guys and I think that is so lame.
I know one who works in patpong in a normal bar and she does not tell people, nor does the staff and supposedly she is barfined many times without the guy knowing. Imagine a crying game scenario with an angry drunk dude and “she” could get messed up. Seems lame.
View all comments by smitty
I visited Pattaya in Feb 2007 with a good friend who has a nice home north of Pattaya and I have to agree that overall the place has really gone to hell. Homo’s? I don’t care what they look like, there is another planet we could send them to, and we have the technology. If its too expensive then a law should be passed to have them tattooed with a black dick on their foreheads and the tattoo should glow in the dark.
MSjoe
View all comments by Mississippi Joe
Full disclosure works for me, another planet or country would be good for the boys, and why not throw in the C teams….can’t stand getting bothered by an old fat woman who does not belong in a hot gogo club….BTW I read your blog because it’s informative and often quite “entertaining”. Still think the bars should be open much later…that’s screwed up big time. Oh and might add can’t stand that the disco’s have gone to American hip hop….just ruins it for me…then they bring in DJ’s from the hood who love to MC between every
song…sick, that what I’m trying to get away from when I head to Asia.
View all comments by Woody
King’s Corner (a mixed girl/kateoy bar in Patpong) has a badge number disclosure system: 2 digits = female, 3 digits = katoey. And yes, it would be nice if it (or something similar) was adopted universally.
@Woody: Later opening is happening, apparently. Patpong’s regularly open til 3am now. So are a few Sukhumvit bars. And I just heard RCA’s going to be the same - astonishing news. God knows how long it’ll last though, and how long it’ll take Nana to catch up. Lumpini’s finest, indeed…
View all comments by Bangkok Bad Boy
Missi Jo - 1 katoey on the Moon is a problem,
10 Katoeys on the moon is a big problem,
All the katoeys on the moon = Problem solved.
Woody - MC’s = Mouthy C*nts
Smitty - The bar that you did not name is the same bar in Patpong that the website says is “No Katoey’s”. But that paticular Katoey is the coolest one I ever met.
I am thinking of sending stuff in but realistically it’s never going to happen when i’m here. Wait til I go back to work then I’ll have plenty of time to send stuff in. Why is this the coolest blog? Because so far there is no slagging sessions. I agree with freedom of speech but if people start arguing here please censor there posts.
I totally understand that when you leave Thailand you try to hold on to something from here. Please take my advice its better to read this blog to feel some connection than taking a girls email address. This blog will make you the corners of your mouth turn up, whereas a email address’s will make you slowly start believing the “Girl”. The only email you should send is about a week before you come back to let her know your coming back (if she’s a good’en”).
Smitty - Club Culture is on Soi Ayudthaya Rd. opposite the Siam City Hotel (near Phaya Thai Seafood). On your way from Victory Mo. BTS on Phaya Rd. to Phaya Thai BTS. Its a left turn about half way (I don’t think it’s afterhours but it got good line ups).
View all comments by Young Royal
MJ - to be clear - let’s not take this into a gay bashing opportunity. I won’t allow it. Thanks. They need to keep the separation or properly label the “girls”. May have to start a petition drive.
Woody - yeah. I always carry a brick with me when I go clubbing in the US, since I can slide past the metal detectors easily, then in betwen songs when the MC tries to be funny I throw it at him. Usually it takes him out but no one sees me in the dark. Works like a charm.
BBB - that system is in place since it is a known mixed club. We need it club wide. Opening later - god forbid. Lumpini won’t do it just to say they are different. What if the whole town started staying open later - some of the tourists might even come back.
YR - She is cool but I still feel the slide of the hand cut ladyboys in the normal go gos is lame. That is all.
Thanks for the record locater on Culture Club. Need to check it out. Are they ID’ng?
View all comments by smitty
What I find puzzling is that there is clearly a strong market for ladyboys. The bars are generally ticking over and in fact are proliferating.
Why then is it that no-one on these (anonymous) forums ever really admits to having shagged one? We all know that many, many guys who have been in Bangkok a long time eventually give it a go, and then go back for more.
I can (sort of) understand the schoolboy homophobia of people who go to Thailand once or twice a year on holiday, but surely some of you resident blokes here are being a bit disingenuous. Is it because some of you know each other in real life?
View all comments by Combover
@Combover: Now that’s a good question.
As we’ve already seen on this page, it’s certainly an issues that seems to attract polar opinions.
Some guys are fervently in favour of ladyboys, and find them more appealing than the real thing, whilst often not being even slightly interested in regular gay men. They may also be interested in regular Thai girls. They take great offence at being labelled as gay, and insist that ladyboys are this mysterious “third gender” - which may or may not end up in the new constitution.
Incidentally, most regular gay guys aren’t interested in them at all, and prefer other regular gay guys.
I’d suggest that whilst most regular straight guys are not particularly interested in shagging ladyboys, most of us have a natural curiosity about these folks who we just do not see back in the West. Sure, we have transgender people in the UK, but they tend to look more like pantomime dames than the “girls” from eg. Obsession at NEP. I think it was Trink who said that the hottest women in Thailand are men. I can’t agree, but they often have better tits.
I’ve visited several ladyboy bars - but my visits were purely for research purposes, your honour. I have a website to maintain. I discovered that they can dance a lot better than most of the regular gogo girls, and are (although I didn’t think it possible) even pushier.
And then there’s the homophobes and the haters, who think they should all be sent to the moon or somesuch. “Protesteth too much, methinks”? Hmm.
But back to the point, I agree that it’s pretty distasteful for ladyboys to try and pass themselves off as regular girls. Whatever your tastes, I think it’s reasonable to expect to know the gender of the person into whom you’re about to insert yourself beforehand…
View all comments by Bangkok Bad Boy
Hey Guys
As always an interesting thread creating different points of view
In answer to the question, I dont have a problem with disclosure but it starts to make me think that things are almost becoming sanitised…..what’s next? Weight disclosure,previous STD’s,age etc.
It’s the current forced regulation(i.e. opening/closing times,dressed/not dressed)that is taking the fun away from the bars and at present people are voting with thier feet(i.e. vastly reduced punters).Let’s not forget that Thailand works on a ‘buyer beware’principle…’you pays your money and you takes your choice’.
I am disappointed that some of the comments have been used to vent points based on a ‘kill/relocate gays/katoeys discussion.Whilst not wanting to shag a ladyboy they’re entertaining and part of the culture of BKK. ‘live and let live’guys.
Pattaya: not my cup of tea but it’s removal will only locate the people,that some of the contributers dislike,into Bangkok.
It works to have a place that caters for the variation of visitors.
A couple of weeks ago we discussed the story that the Thai Government want to expand Pattaya to cater for all go-go bar enthusiasts and keep them in one place.I could’nt think of anything worse.I’ll keep BKK the way it is.Pattaya can stay the way it is and then everyone is happy.
If you dont like Pattaya,do like me….dont go.However,I would not like to see it disappear.
View all comments by ChelseaBlue
CB - I think BBB answered well. I am not asking to know everything and I for one think ladyboys are cool and visit the LB bars. All I am saying is passing a ladyboy off as a girl is deceiving. I think it is a bad practice. It never used to happen before BTW.
There is also no connection with this to my feelings about gay people or people who enjoy ladyboys. They are not connected at all. Meaning this angle should not be used for gay basjing and I won’t let people on this forum turn it into that, but putting LB’s in normal go go bars and not disclosing it when asked and is not cool. That’s all.
I like Pattaya. I like BKK. I always disagreed with Thaksin’s plan to put all the fun stuff in Pattaya and turn Bkk into Singapore. That would suck!
View all comments by smitty
Every Go-Go should have mirrors on the stage. Some already do, like Pretty Lady who boasts that the girls are undie-free, which they are. With the mirror you can get a peek of the undercarriage prior to purchasing the car.
With Ladyboys that are not cut, even if they tuck and tape down, you should get the truth. With Ladyboys that are cut ask the girl in question to bend down close to the mirror. If you see something that looks like a wound, or if you see a leftover Scalpel, then you will know. For the cut Ladyboys that have a perfect operation, well, just give it a go and see what you think.
View all comments by pmmp
Agreed Smitty,BBB put it very well.
As I said in my comment I am not against disclosure.
I am against relocation
View all comments by ChelseaBlue
Well said…
View all comments by smitty
For those who may be pattayasecrets members - seems I have ruffled some feathers…
http://www.pattayasecrets.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=24377
So far nothing in the thread seems to answer it. They say without a doubt that the owner there does not hire them but then there is some talk of a door girl and so on.
They seem to think I am stirring it up or clueless to spotting ladyboys but anyway…
View all comments by smitty
Ladyboys (cut or uncut): opposed
Diclosure: in favour
Pattaya: opposed
Gays: ambivalent
McDs Brekkie: abstain
Themae: opposed
Patpong ping pong bars: in favour (whoops, wrong blog site)
C-team: opposed
Angelwitch: ambivalent
Rainbow bars: heavily in favour
Draft Constitution: opposed
CNS: opposed
Soi 7 Beer Bar: opposed
His Majesty the King: in favour
Amity Companies: in favour
Suzy Wong’s Lesbian show: in favour
Soapie Massages: Heavily in favour
Closing of Suan Lum Night Bazaar: opposed
Midgeting: never
3-some: once — not worth the effort
King’s group: in favour
Crown Group: opposed
Star of Light/Lolitas: hands down… SOL
Jake Needham: in favour
Tuk Tuk drivers: “what do you call 1000 tuk tuk drivers at the bottom of the ocean?”
I think that just about covers it… isn’t it time for a new weekly post?
View all comments by werewolf
To everyone who posted after my last comment your absolutely right, My comment was stupid. It was just a joke.. a bad one.
I have only met one or two that I get on with as the others tend not to listen to me and keep grabbing my balls too hard. I have nothing against anybody who doesn’t interfer with my personal harmony, especially when I don’t with theirs. Live and Let Live. It’s hard not to stereotype people when 99% seem to dedicate their time agressively trying to convince me what I like/want. I might like it I might not but it’s still my choice.
You go to McDonalds for McSomething, Starbucks for coffee and Regular Gogo bars for GIRLS. If you want a Ladyboy/Kateoy you go to specialised bars. Imagine how frustrating it would be if everyone starting doing this. McDonald bring you a Kebab, Starbucks a Milkshake instead of your actual order.
Thats my real opinion and i’ll think first before posting again.
Yes Club Culture ID’s
View all comments by Young Royal
WW: Damn. What a list. I think it covers it.
YR : Love the analogy. Works for me.
View all comments by smitty
The next night I hit Happy and barfined the cutest go go dancer. One I had seen the night b4 with smitty at Happy. Had a great time after taking her to an Angelwitch show. She was the smallest chick I had ever been with but I didn’t midget.
The previous night I barfined a hostess at Peppermint, nice company but would not put-out. Learned my lesson, don’t barfine hostesses.
But the best looking girl I saw in Bangkok was actually a guy at Kings Corner (I think it was that place, so many Kings so little time). The surgeries are so fucking good these day, add a little hormone therapy and these dudes live for the attention they receive during the showcase.
It’s scary and fascinating at the same time. I freaked out when this particular ladyboy approached me. I couldn’t believe it was a ladyboy. We quickly left after the encounter but I went back the next night to overcome my fear of ladyboys. I bought her a lady drink and talked to her for about ten minutes. Believe me I’m not gay but I was seriously considering the possibility of being with this particular creature but I found my sanity and left. What I really regret is not getting a picture of her/it/him. I consider barfining her/it/him soley to take her picture but chickened-out. Next time maybe…
~h
View all comments by ~h
Got burned on drinks yesterday by a ladyboy in Playskool. So I’ve changed my mind. Now I do want full disclosure!
But, had a long chat with the ladyboy mamasan in Mercury too the other night. She’d fixed me up previously with a brilliant girl, so I thanked her for that, and she was really excellent company.
View all comments by Combover
I think that lady boys are great and a really good laugh. They have provided me with an awful lot of entertaiment recently not in a sexual way but they are out right good fun and i would happily take a group out with me for what i know would be a cracking night out.
View all comments by shanghai brit
I’m not for Full Disclosure, for the sake of the newbies who visit Thailand.
I remember on my 2nd trip to Bangkok, the first for my buddy, we visited Playskool A-Go-Go around 10:30 pm. The pickings were slim as most of the good looking girls had already been barfined. But there were two very sexy hot stunners still dancing on stage. We both bought them lady drinks, and within 5 minutes my friend had already bar fined his out and saying goodnight to me. Well this was the first night in Bangkok and I wasn’t ready to pull from the first bar I visited. So I engaged in conversation with my girl. As the conversation progressed I realized this was not a girl, all the time she kept looking in the mirror at herself and touching her hair. Overly feminine was the way to describe it. Basically we knew about LadyBoys but never thought they’d be in the mix with regular go-go girls. This was a big turn-off for me and I quickly ditched shim, only to be accosted by a FOB punter, who was wondering why I was not barfining her. I told him what I sensed and he said that the mamasan assured him there are no Ladyboys in this bar. Short story I saw him leave with her, I hope he was cut! Well you can imagine what I was thinking about my friend’s lady. Come to find out he was not scarred from this incident because the supposedly Ladyboy was of the cut version. The same trip me and my buddy made our way to Patpong, it was the first for the both of us. We poked our heads in King’s Castle and saw probaly 50 of the most beautiful girls in Bangkok on stage. They were semi nude, most with natural teen size breasts, some with obvious boob jobs, all wearing g-strings. I really thought these were all girls and maybe there was some katoeys mixed in. My friend bought two girls a drink and I bought one a drink myself. After some close-up conversation, my girl grabbed my hands and put them on her breasts. They were very nice delveloping teen sized ones, and her skin was very soft and supple. She had a beautiful face and sexy eyes, with a killer body wearing a scant little g-string. I asked if she was a girl and not a LB and she assured me she was a girl. After all how can a LB have real breasts and be wearing a skimpy g-string with no bulge showing. I was smitten. Well being this was my friends first trip to Bangkok and horny as hell, he had already barfined the twosome and was in the process of heading back to the hotel all within 15 minutes. As they got up and left I immediately knew they were LB’s, they were just as tall as him. We were sitting in the back seating on a elevated couch, so when they approached us they appeared short and we taller. I then realized I too, had just barfined a ladyboy. When I got up to leave with my date to the short time hotel around the corner, she was at least 6 inches taller than me, with heels!! As I exited the bar, I really was embarrassed from all the stares I got. I just wanted to run and hide to the short time hotel as quickly as possible, and confront my date. When we got there I showered, but she did not, she just took off her top but left her knickers on. I asked her twice to remove her knickers but she would not do so. She wanted to give me a BJ, but I backed away. I than asked her again if she was a Boy, and that’s when she started doing the wai for forgiveness. I wasn’t that upset because I had kind of already knew after leaving the bar she was one. Well I’m not gay and not into LB’s so the only thing I could think of was to get as much information about LB’s, because obviously I had no intention of trying to recover my barfine or stiffing the LB of her short time. I had heard they can get very violent, after all they are men and bigger than me. The first burning question was whether my friend had indeed taken two LB’s, yes was the answer, one was cut and the other uncut. It was too late to warn my friend as he had already probably done the deed. Oh well! I had a heart to heart talk with my LB and it was the most insightful information I will never forget. She/He said that most of the King’s group of bars all have LB’s in them. The bar I was in was ALL LB’s, this I couldn’t believe, because I swear there were some girls in the mix. I asked how is that she had real breasts and not silicon, thats when I got the saddest story I’ve ever heard about being poor in Thailand. She said that when she was a little kid her parents did not want a boy but a girl, probably knew that they could profit/sell a girl. So from a very young age she was given hormones to become a girl. That’s the reason for the real breasts and very nice shapely figure, soft skin, and beautiful face and eyes. I could have easily fell in love with her had she not been a boy. I wanted to know if she was cut or uncut, which was obvious as she refused to remove her knickers. But I couldn’t help but noticed there was no lump in the g-string. She then, pull down the g-string to reveal a very tight meshed underwear, smashing junior to who knows where. We talked and talked for almost one hour, and I found out much of where she is from, her family, why she spoke English so well, etc…
Basically it was an expensive learning experience, but all newbies should experience. I kept referring to her as LB, and she corrected me at the end, by saying: ‘I not boy I am girl’. They truly believe they are pu-ying. As for my friend he was emotionally scarred for a while, because he realized it only after the deed was done. Seems like the uncut one would not remove her knickers and just gave him a BJ. While the cut one let him shag her. The letdown to him was when they were through having sex, their voices became lower!!!
Ways to detect a LB:
1. Is taller, has bigger hands and feet than you. (Although I’ve known many Thai girls that are tall and have big hands and feet)
2. Overly Feminine, keeps looking in the mirror at herself, always touching her hair, walks too sexy.(Real Thai girls don’t overdo it)
3. Has a fake feminine voice, sounds rather low.(Some real girls do have low voices, some men find this sexy)
4. Is the most beautiful girl you’ve seen in Thailand, so far.(They really stand out form the crowd)
5. Wonder why nobody has barfined her yet.(It’s almost closing time and the most beautiful girl in the bar has not gotten barfined yet, humm..)
6. Immediately puts you hand on her privates, hope she’s uncut!!(No decent Thai girl has to prove anything)
7. Very aggressive. (My friend was once accosted at a bar in Phuket by 2 ladyboys who pinned him down at their bar until he bought a drink from them)
8. Speaks very good English. (The one’s I’ve come across, I’ve enjoyed their company because of their English Skills)
9. When you bring them back to your Hotel and the night desk people have smirks on their face.(one way is to pay the night staff to see if I’m making a BIG mistake or not)
10. You bring them to an all Thai night club and everyone is smiling at you and your date. (but she sure looks good and can dance!!)
I’m sure you all made mistakes..Come on..give it up…
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Forgot to mention, my mate said they use almost the full tube of his lube. Now that is a good indication….But being a newbie and horny he would have shag anything that moved!!!
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I realize I’m getting in on this discussion about a year late but I am disgusted by the many mongers who are so politically corret here.
Let me put it more succintly… either you’re being socially liberal or you just enjoy a stiff rod up your ass.
Guess what, if that is the case, you belong dressed up with the lb’s and deserve all the diseased aftermath.
It’s not a debate about disclosure. These faggots should be shipped to an island of their own. For those of you who choose to defend them, just drag along beside the boat.
Go ahead and bash this. That says alot about you. I’m not a homophobe. I’m a normal guy that hates to be bothered by deceptive, fudgepacking, misfits. Just leave us heterosexuals alone please.
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*Smirks knowingly*
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Anyone else as disappointed as I (grammar) by Bangkok Bad Boy’s re-emergence into the kokosphere?
http://www.bangkokbadboy.com/
I mean, I appreciate minimalism as much as the next guy (ie not very much at all), but I find both the spare design and the lack of content a big let-down. Let’s hope his next piece is a little more of the old BBB, and a little less hi-so modishness!
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